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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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That is one clean looking kit! Keep up the good work RPW!
Old Sep 29, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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very nice! Just the update I been lookin for haha

10PSI safe?
Old Sep 29, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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Looks like our 4G69 likes torque
Old Sep 29, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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10psi is extremely safe this car can be tuned more aggressively which will result in more Hp and possibly more torque but having driven the car I am thinking that you probably would not be really be wanting much more than this especially for street and everyday purposes - so come race days for me I think I would like to give it a try with 15+psi but this won't happen in the near future due to still having a stock clutch

the car has been tuned more in mind of creating torque so yes these car love there torque and I must admit so do I, it is a strange mix of coming on boost at I think 2800rpm then hit mivec at 3700rpm then hitting max boost at I think 4400rpm the revs just come so quick I don't really dare to look at what the rpm meter is saying or my speedo for that matter as I am concentrating on what is coming up next on the road and when you do look at the speedo you start having to think about applying brakes... which I think may have to be my next upgrade.
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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Nice work on all this and I am currently starting to save up for a tubo kit. I hope after reading this i got all the info right. I assume that at 7 Psi we would be looking at around 250 whp right and somwhere around 220 torque. I also assume that this is the stage one setup, wich leads me to my fist question. The stage 2 setup, will any internals need to be replaced and would it be sutable for a daly driver with a after market clutch ect??? I assume that 8 Psi on this setup is sutable for daly driving on the stage one setup. It is a plug in play system for the ECU and if someone is wanting more then 5 Psi then you would have to take it to your local tuner shop to get it tuned for lets say 8 Psi. I seen somewhere where in Australia you run 95 octane, will the setup for the USA people have to be changed once we recieve it here due to having 91 octane???? Is there any word on the shipping cost of the full kit to the U.S. yet?? How installer friendly is it going to be? Thanks for your time and keep up the good work as im interested in this kit and will be looking into both your and RRMs kits to see what is the best bang for the buck. OOOO one other question, cams, will there be a dyno with a turbo cam and will you have a set cam for the turbo setup and possible offer the cam in the package as a add on to your turbo package??? I would be interested in a cam as well as some of your other parts for my RA. LOOKS GREAT and will be looking into this more as i save.

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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 01:11 AM
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@ silversleeper: RPW didnt seem to have the dyno at 7psi on their website, but they've disclosed that they ran 10 PSI and got "Finished Dyno Run Turbocharged 10 psi - 228hp @ 5250 rpm, 325nm(around 240 Torque after conversion to ft/lbs) @ 4250 rpm", note this run was also detuned(from what I know) ignition-wise and a few other nicks and nacks there. They stated it was a conservative tune, which it appears to be for 10PSI. I would assume 7PSI conservative tuning would give you 215whp/220ft/lbs, this being my assumption. I dont think it'll get up to 250whp @ 7 PSI with an agressive tune that easily.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 02:09 AM
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Actually the first dyno that we did was a 7psi were again it was a very very conservitive tune were we got 206hp atw I don't know what the torque numbers were but from driving it it was very nice.... actually I could rave about that bit quiet happily because if you can imagine not having your car for such a long period of time and driving around in a 4G15 Lancer/Mirage and then jumping into this car (at first I was scared) then once having found my feet driving it at 7psi was so much fun I was laughing the whole time as to how much fun I was having... the torque is incrediable you would never be disappointed with it

The reason why I have only got a very mild safe tune on the car is that I am still running around with a stock clutch... and I need the current factory setup to last for hopefully 6 months ( I am forever the optimist) as for fuel we also have a 98 octane but the translation between our fuel vs yours is somewhat different David tuned my car with 95 octane which I think is equivelent to your 91Octane... (David will confirm this) some people may say that this turbo setup is on the weak side as it does not have the high HP numbers but RPW tuned the car and set it up for my purposes which is to drive on a daily basis as this is my work car on average I will drive in excess of 600klm per week so the car needs to be carpark friendly, comfortable, and economical, he has told me that if and when i am ready he can add a stage 1 turbo cam into the car and wind the boost up - we could quiet easily get 300hp from this car no problems but the problem lies with how much of those wonderfully high hp am I really going to be needing and how much of those are useable the way the car is setup now is perfect for me but by all means you can get so much more from these cars with almost no internal mods although I think if you were want more than 14psi then you would want to change out the pistons then you could crank it up to what ever amount you want

I did go to the track on wednesday and I really did not want to post up the times due to how badly I drove I am a little embarassed with the results but I do know that they can be improved upon once I do a few suspenssion mods my biggest setback was my 60ft time that section let me down badly but check out the top end speed very impressed with that

60ft..... .2.614
330ft.....6.498
660ft.....9.728 speed 122.96klm
1000ft...12.511
elapsed time 14.818 @157.42klm (97.82mph)
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 07:14 AM
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Thanks for responding to me chowtime and k3lv, but im curious as to what I would need for the stage 2 that you have posted on your websight as im looking for a little more ponies then 215 but I do LOVE the torque you got posted up. What is the main differnts in the stage 2 vs the stage 1 and any internal mods needed??? I love the setup you got going but just want a little more HP there, although I do see the torque as being on the high side . Thanks for the info.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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OOOO yea ans almost forgot, if there not already done when will the cams for the turbos be done and what is a safe reserved estamate on the gains from that. I would also like to know how buy adding a cam you could go up with the boost and not blow your engine. I dont need a detailed explanation just something to simple sweet and to the point lol. Thanks again and LOOKING GREAT.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Sometimes stage 2 can be an addition of methanol injection, which means the provider, such as RPW/RRM provides a map for, and you'll need to get the meth yourself.

Chowetime: I thought you dynoed the first run @ 5PSI for 206wHP?
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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If what chowtime posted earlier about getting 215 HP with 220 torque i would deffinately be up for purchasing your setup as I just got done looking at RRMs setup and the systems have about the same numbers on pump gas. I would have to take in consideration though SHIPPING cost as since your setup is cheaper on the sight by a bunch the shipping my actually be the deciding factor in it. If i do decide to go with RPWs setup I would definatly want a cam to go with it as i wouldnt mind the extra power, but would be tuned for daily driving. I dont hall much people around so i can take the power lol. I would like to know what the torque was on your 7 Psi run though to see what it comes out to. I dont understand though that you only got 205 HP out off 7 Psi. I just want some nice hard numbers what if you could have David post up and let us know what the conservative estamate would be with a cam for the turbo installed would put out on this system. Like i said if I could get 215 HP and 220 torque I would definatly go your way that is if shipping wont be makingup the cost differnts from RRMs since i could drive to there shop and have them install it lol. I do LOVE though that your system is plug and play so with that how long would some one with some automotive experiance take to install this and would indtructions come with it???? sorry for the long posts just want info sooo i can make my decision and go with it!
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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Chowetime: I thought you dynoed the first run @ 5PSI for 206wHP?
Please excuse me if I make a mess of this... the wastegate on the turbo is set at 7psi so that was the minimal amount of boost that we could do but because we did not have a boost controller setup on the car our boost levels dropped off to about 5psi when we reached max hp which was 206hp... but we were not after numbers with this tune we were mostly just looking at getting a base tune to be able to adjust from this point... I don't know what the torque numbers are for this mainly because david gave me some of the dyno sheets but I have them in my other car which is 180klm away from were I live.

Personally IMO I think, don't worry too much about the result from our first tune as they are almost irrelevent... instead look at what we have with the 10psi tune as this is more of a true indication of what power is available for the car

with the 10psi we got 245hp @30 degrees of timing and with my tune we reduced the timing back to something I liked and to make the car ultra safe and to preserve the stock clutch we took this back to 19 degrees of timing to give us 228?hp (sorry can't remember exactly but hey whats a couple of hp among friends) and 325nm torque so I think with this very mild setup you can quite easily increase your hp just by adding/reduce timing degrees it would be as simple as that..

As for a stage 2 I think you will most likely find that it will be the likes of cam shafts and pistons plus of course more tuning... I have not known David to use Methanol but that is not to say that he has not done this I don't know everything that this man does
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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thanks for clearing that up Christine
Old Oct 8, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Christines been answering the questions well but I don't have a lot of itme today or this week so some quick answers.

First of all stage 1, 2 and 3 kits are now posted up on our website with pricing.
The differences between the kits - is essentially
stage 1 - for manuel and auto vehicles, low boost 5 - 12 psi mainly auto to be honest
stage 2 & 3 come with the larger turbo and more frills. Will handle boost from 7 - 25 psi.

The amount of horsepower is not linked so much to the stage 2 or 3 kit, but the tuning ability, choice of computer and intercooler efficiency and of course engine internals.

Main difference between stage 2 and stage 3 is the extra ceramic coating of components, larger injectors for higher boost and minro variations hence why there is not large price differences either.

This kit comes iwth the 400hp ball bearing turbo which realistically is not even in its efficiency range yet on christines car at 10 psi.

To give an example as to how de tuned christines car is, I am tuning a Mitsubishi 1.8 lancer with a 250hp garret turbo and FMIC with the same haltech E8 unit, and we are reaching 220hp at 13 psi on this vehicle with a lot more ignition timing around 25 - 28 degrees at max boost. Of course not the same level of torque but I think everyone can see how we set this particular vehicle up very very conservativly.

Turbo and naturally aspirated camshafts are now available yes - my first batches arrive next week and some are going out already. Yes vernier camshfat gears are now also available.

Within the next two weeks I will update our website with pricing on the complete water/air intercooler kits as a bolt on package kit.

Freight for the turbo kit is not too bad - especially with our econmoy air freights now but I don't have pricing on hand

I won't be doing any dyno with the turbo camshafts at this time unless we do another turbo vehicle or until christine's car comes back for more mods after the clutch / flywheel upgrade.
Old Oct 8, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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Great update, good luck with the business Mitsiman.

AFter taking a look, it doesn't list a computer upgrade on the stage 1 kit?

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