Dyno tuned Turbo'd Ralliart
Oct 29, 2007, 05:11 PM
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lol, I can't wait as well.
About time a turbo'd ralliart has stepped up to the plate and got it dyno'd and tuned! Kudos to you ROL.
Hope you get some good numbers, if its not what you expect, be happy with it, they're just numbers in the end
Dyno chart ftw.
About time a turbo'd ralliart has stepped up to the plate and got it dyno'd and tuned! Kudos to you ROL.
Hope you get some good numbers, if its not what you expect, be happy with it, they're just numbers in the end
Dyno chart ftw.
Oct 29, 2007, 06:17 PM
#32
Ok well i just got home.... Long story short, I came unprepared.
Appearently, in order for our piggyback to be tuned on a dyno, you need the software from RRM, or a thing called a tetrix cable that can be found at openecu.org. Can't upload the system without the software. AND you cant plug the piggy directly into the dyno computer w/out the cable. So I couldnt tune it. AT ALL. I could run it, but no tuning. :'( This makes the hole lancer community sad.
Short story...
The 1000cc injector is making me running SUPER RICH with out the tune. I'm making 230WHP and 240TQ with the power falling flat on its face.. The dyno curve is litterally going downward due to the extra fuel. I'm running so rich that the air fuel ratio is off the charts. Not good. So my horse power is drastically be drowned by the 93 octane.
Long story....
I get there a little late because i got lost. Past the very last exit. Oopsie daisy... Get there and they install my manuel boost controller AND MY FUEL INJECTOR right away. I mean good job they installed it ASAP, but my dumbass shouldnt have had it installed it until after I got in on the dyno. So I sit around and wait for them to finish up an STI I think they had.
Well finally it was my turn to get strapped on the dyno. They put me on and the guy comes out and asks if I have the softwear. Appearently I didnt. So he said he coulnt tune it w/out that or the cable I explained above. So we installed the fuel injector, and upped the boost to just under 10psi. But we couldnt tune it. So there is just so much fuel bum-rushing into the engine, the power is just not there.
I will post the dyno up as soon as i can get it uploaded on my computer. But you see the powercurve is strong (really strong) at about 4 grand. But instead of the power curve going upwards (like it should do in any turbo motor) it literally goes downward.
The air fuel ratio is just funny. 10 is the lowest the chart goes (meaning the richest) and im way below 10, im off the charts. OFF THE CHARTS. Thats how rich im running. Everybody at turbotrix says i have PLENTY OF POWER to squeeze out of this lancer. And its obviouse from the dyno to. All I need is the softwear from RRM, or the cable from this website. TurboTrix recommends the cable for my setup and there dyno. So im going to order the cable tomorrow after work. And I'm going to schedrual a dyno appointment AGAIN in about a month or so.
So technically. This is a EXTREMELY RICH ralliart, NOT TUNED, running 9.8psi
top 3 runs...
220 WHP 230 TQ
212 WHP 238 TQ
214 WHP 245 TQ
YES i know... Pretty embarassing. Not what you expected. It's an unfinished product. Most important thing about a race car is its tune. This right here is prime example. Tuning is everything.
ONE MORE MONTH and i promise I will hit the dyno again and hit real numbers. 300 Wheel Horse Power Club, here I come
THE BUTT DYNO:
before the dyno tune i just didnt beat on the car. I was afraid it would lean out. But AFTER the tune. There is no turbo lag at all from the head. From 3K-4K RPMs The car is absolutly nasty. 2nd gear roaches the tires off, and 3rd gear it feels like it wants to slip away. 4K-5K RPM's the car feels like its picking up speed, and gaining horsepower, But just after 5k RPM's you can feel the motor just go SPLAT. Its just a small, steady acceleration, rather than the power i should be feeling. You can feel the car just stop pulling you. And every once in a while, at 4.5K + it will cough and back fire a little bit. While it was on the dyno, it coughed up black smoke
TOO RICH
So go ahead and make fun of me. I drove 2 hours, and couldnt get it dyno TUNED because of a stupid cable. Give me a month and I'll impress you guys. Dont worry.
Now my hand hurts from to much typing.
feedback, questions?
Appearently, in order for our piggyback to be tuned on a dyno, you need the software from RRM, or a thing called a tetrix cable that can be found at openecu.org. Can't upload the system without the software. AND you cant plug the piggy directly into the dyno computer w/out the cable. So I couldnt tune it. AT ALL. I could run it, but no tuning. :'( This makes the hole lancer community sad.
Short story...
The 1000cc injector is making me running SUPER RICH with out the tune. I'm making 230WHP and 240TQ with the power falling flat on its face.. The dyno curve is litterally going downward due to the extra fuel. I'm running so rich that the air fuel ratio is off the charts. Not good. So my horse power is drastically be drowned by the 93 octane.
Long story....
I get there a little late because i got lost. Past the very last exit. Oopsie daisy... Get there and they install my manuel boost controller AND MY FUEL INJECTOR right away. I mean good job they installed it ASAP, but my dumbass shouldnt have had it installed it until after I got in on the dyno. So I sit around and wait for them to finish up an STI I think they had.
Well finally it was my turn to get strapped on the dyno. They put me on and the guy comes out and asks if I have the softwear. Appearently I didnt. So he said he coulnt tune it w/out that or the cable I explained above. So we installed the fuel injector, and upped the boost to just under 10psi. But we couldnt tune it. So there is just so much fuel bum-rushing into the engine, the power is just not there.
I will post the dyno up as soon as i can get it uploaded on my computer. But you see the powercurve is strong (really strong) at about 4 grand. But instead of the power curve going upwards (like it should do in any turbo motor) it literally goes downward.
The air fuel ratio is just funny. 10 is the lowest the chart goes (meaning the richest) and im way below 10, im off the charts. OFF THE CHARTS. Thats how rich im running. Everybody at turbotrix says i have PLENTY OF POWER to squeeze out of this lancer. And its obviouse from the dyno to. All I need is the softwear from RRM, or the cable from this website. TurboTrix recommends the cable for my setup and there dyno. So im going to order the cable tomorrow after work. And I'm going to schedrual a dyno appointment AGAIN in about a month or so.
So technically. This is a EXTREMELY RICH ralliart, NOT TUNED, running 9.8psi
top 3 runs...
220 WHP 230 TQ
212 WHP 238 TQ
214 WHP 245 TQ
YES i know... Pretty embarassing. Not what you expected. It's an unfinished product. Most important thing about a race car is its tune. This right here is prime example. Tuning is everything.
ONE MORE MONTH and i promise I will hit the dyno again and hit real numbers. 300 Wheel Horse Power Club, here I come
THE BUTT DYNO:
before the dyno tune i just didnt beat on the car. I was afraid it would lean out. But AFTER the tune. There is no turbo lag at all from the head. From 3K-4K RPMs The car is absolutly nasty. 2nd gear roaches the tires off, and 3rd gear it feels like it wants to slip away. 4K-5K RPM's the car feels like its picking up speed, and gaining horsepower, But just after 5k RPM's you can feel the motor just go SPLAT. Its just a small, steady acceleration, rather than the power i should be feeling. You can feel the car just stop pulling you. And every once in a while, at 4.5K + it will cough and back fire a little bit. While it was on the dyno, it coughed up black smoke
TOO RICH
So go ahead and make fun of me. I drove 2 hours, and couldnt get it dyno TUNED because of a stupid cable. Give me a month and I'll impress you guys. Dont worry.
Now my hand hurts from to much typing.
feedback, questions?
Oct 29, 2007, 06:31 PM
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Nope, this is exactly what I expected. I have told you on many occasions you need to get her tuned! But kudos for taking the initiative, at least it gives us some sort of indication of the car's potential.
Don't worry, get the cable and the software, and you'll be sweet as pie.
Don't worry, get the cable and the software, and you'll be sweet as pie.
Oct 29, 2007, 06:51 PM
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Don't worry, I reckon your car will hit high numbers once you get that tune brother!
You're in the hands of experts and in the seat of a beast awaiting to be unleashed!
You're in the hands of experts and in the seat of a beast awaiting to be unleashed!
Oct 29, 2007, 07:11 PM
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You shouldn't be embaressed at all. Those are some really good numbers for not being tuned. After you are tuned you should see some better numbers. Also check out the Basic lancer forums in the tech section for an entire thread about the cable you are going to be picking up. There's been a few thousand posts on that one thread about tuning and some really good links to read up on.
Oct 29, 2007, 07:25 PM
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You don't need the tactrix cable. I'm guessing the shop is used to tuning Evos, but it won't do you a bit of good. You need a DB9 (serial) to USB coverter cable. Will run you $10-$15 at a computer store. It'll allow you to connect the piggyback to a laptop. Somebody who has a piggyback can verify, but I'm 99% sure it has a female DB9 connector.
Something like this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812156009
Something like this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812156009
Oct 29, 2007, 07:54 PM
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Awsome thanks. I"ll check it out and tomarow and I'll message turbotrix about it. See what they say. I just dont wanna do anything tonight. I'm so burntout from today i just dont wanna deal with it. Just sit around and talk about it and cry 