Notices
04-06 Ralliart Engine/Drivetrain (no forced induction)
View Poll Results: do u feel the 30 whp gain with the piggy,cai and axel back exaust package from rrm.
yes, a big 30 whp more!!!
9
28.13%
yes, but not that much!!!
18
56.25%
no, no difference, just noisier, that's it!!
5
15.63%
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

30 whp

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 24, 2005 | 09:10 AM
  #1  
crazylancer's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
From: canada, montreal
30 whp

for u guys that install the package piggy,cai and exaust, do you really feel de 30 whp gain that rrm said it suppose to do?? i want to buy this package this spring but want to know more before i buy!!
thanks guys!!!
Old Apr 24, 2005 | 09:59 AM
  #2  
blk-majik's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,325
Likes: 1
From: CO
check my dyno's. I dont have RRM's axleback, but i have a full catback. its not 30whp. 20-25 max. The CAI is well worth it. The ECU does a good job, but if you are into taking things into your own hands, you can get an emanage to do the A/F tuning just as well (and do mch more) for about the same price. I dunno what the axle back will do. My catback extended both my power and torque bands, but didnt help peak. then again, peak is way over rated.

if you want easy power, its the way to go. if you are on a budget and can tune the electronics an alternate way, then you can save some $.
Old Apr 24, 2005 | 12:05 PM
  #3  
reTro's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,567
Likes: 1
From: San Diego
I'm guessing more like in the 20-ish range. But without going turbo, it's the only options out there!
Old Apr 24, 2005 | 01:15 PM
  #4  
blk-majik's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,325
Likes: 1
From: CO
not really. injen CAI, AEM CAI, etc. but I like RRM. the price is the same and the company stands behind what they do.

For EMS, $400 can get you an emanage or SAFC or 100 other tools that might be a bit less application-specific and require tuning in order to get good results (which needs a $300 wideband o2 sensor and maybe some dyno time). if you are willing to go the extra mile, you can get better overall results, but at a non-dollar price.

maybe its better to say that its the only option out there that will work for everyone =)
Old Apr 24, 2005 | 06:22 PM
  #5  
reTro's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,567
Likes: 1
From: San Diego
Originally Posted by blk-majik
not really. injen CAI, AEM CAI, etc. but I like RRM. the price is the same and the company stands behind what they do.
Well... what I meant by that was what bolt-ons are available, not the brand. Now if we could just get some cams!!!!
Old Apr 24, 2005 | 06:35 PM
  #6  
Arithmetic's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,856
Likes: 0
From: So Cal
^^^ I hear you on that.

I want agressive cams... something similar to what celica GT-s and RSX-s have on there car. When LIFT or vTEC kick in, the HP shoots 30-40whp on the dyno, ive seen it, and it's all because there high cam (the agressive one) kicks in @ 6ooo and 62oo RPM's. Our cams are not that agressive due to mitsu fitting it with an all around car for everyone. Not everybody is gonna want/like that "kick" when MIVEC gets in. Also, GT-s and type-S are consider sports car, so of course there gonna be fitted w/ sports car like function. I really want MIVEC to perform like lift or vTEC.

What sucks is, yesterday @ MoDo5 I was talking to one of the guys behind the new 4g eclipse and we had a intresting conversation on MIVEC. What stood out the most is, he said on the v6 version, MIVEC is similar to LIFT/vTEC on the toyotas and hondas, that when it approaches the MIVEC profile, there is an instant BOOST in HP, almost like a light switch and it's felt to redline, and the car pulls hard and would surprise alot of cars in the 30k range. I would like to get my hands on the 4g eclipse cams... just to see what's up.
Old Apr 24, 2005 | 11:15 PM
  #7  
reimundo's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 569
Likes: 0
From: CAlifornia
i think it's because the 4g eclipse has v6 with 262 hp thats why you can feel the power, but the 4g ecplise-GS should be the same feel as our cars.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 04:41 PM
  #8  
KreepaEvoX's Avatar
Evolved Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: Ponce P.R.
Just hold on for the moment while the guys at PR start experimenting with them cams. They did wonders for Mirages and Hyundais here.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 07:38 PM
  #9  
Arithmetic's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,856
Likes: 0
From: So Cal
^^^ im trying, but it's a bit fustrating... just waiting
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 08:18 PM
  #10  
reTro's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,567
Likes: 1
From: San Diego
Originally Posted by reimundo
i think it's because the 4g eclipse has v6 with 262 hp thats why you can feel the power, but the 4g ecplise-GS should be the same feel as our cars.
Does the new 2.4i Eclipse have the same engine as ours?
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:08 PM
  #11  
Arithmetic's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,856
Likes: 0
From: So Cal
Exclamation

Originally Posted by reTro
Does the new 2.4i Eclipse have the same engine as ours?
^^^ same engine, slight different output... 165hp and 165trq. Thou, it'll be heavier than our car, so it should run low 16's.

Originally Posted by reimundo
i think it's because the 4g eclipse has v6 with 262 hp thats why you can feel the power, but the 4g ecplise-GS should be the same feel as our cars.
not exactly, it's more like... (example)

the 4g eclipse probably reaches peak HP @ 5700rpms (263hp), MIVEC agressive HIGH cam profile is @ 3600rpms. So from 50rpms - 3500rpms, the power is building. So @ 3500rpms, the 4g eclipse is at 200hp, when MIVEC profile switchs on @ 3600, the power is dramaticly increased by 40-50hp, and @ 5000rpms, MIVEC has increased the power instantly (a la vTEC and LIFT)... than it builds up about 10-15hp till 5700rpms, where anything after than just falls off the powerband.
Old Apr 26, 2005 | 01:21 PM
  #12  
KreepaEvoX's Avatar
Evolved Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: Ponce P.R.
I guess they are just waiting for the first RA owner to bring a cam to start regrinding experiments.... The dude that does this is he guy that tunes the technology for the RA in P.R. thats running in the 9's. Hes usually pretty good. Its just that lately hes been more focused on his little Hyundai Accent(yes Accent) that is ALSO running 9's on its 1.5 engine
Old Apr 26, 2005 | 08:14 PM
  #13  
MitsuRalliArt's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 475
Likes: 0
From: ATL
I'm not going to even think about touching my car until someone gets some ****ing bumpsticks on the damn market!
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 03:28 PM
  #14  
MitsuJoe's Avatar
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (133)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,123
Likes: 0
From: Anywhere
Your saying he needs a donor cam?
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:21 PM
  #15  
Arithmetic's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,856
Likes: 0
From: So Cal
im going to contact AEM and see what they have in plan for some cams. Also, RRM is our main parts people, hopefully they'll be doing something.


Quick Reply: 30 whp



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:35 AM.