Henrys Ralliart

Hey all! I just did my timing belt and when I started it up everything runs fine, at idle. When I went to test drive it I felt some vibration in the drivetrain, even through the shifter linkage. I think its a problem with the balance shaft, but when I just took it all back apart everythings perfectly timed (theres a seperate belt for the balance shaft only). Is it possible to have the balance shaft 360 degrees off? I replaced both belts, with OEM equipment, and timing belt tensioner OEM. I should clarify, the higher the RPM and load on engine the worse the vibration is felt.

otter

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It's possible to have the balance shaft off. Rotate everything to TDC then shove a screwdriver into the balance shaft access port on the front of the engine. You should be able to stick it in 2.4". If you can't, then it's out of phase.

Henrys Ralliart

Wow! thanks for the free knowledge, that was exactly my problem. Much appreciated otter

bruce988jl

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otter de' guru of RA's... Dude Otter if you ever get rid of the RA... it will be a sad sad day for the community.

Henry, how long did it take you.

joeyj

if you know what you're doing, it shouldn't take too much longer than 2 hours

Henrys Ralliart

4 hours without my little mistake, cuz I was dillydallying. It was actually surprisingly easy I used a 14mm wrench, 1/4 rachet and 10mm, and a impact set (1/2 drive) 21mm-12mm and that was it. Any somewhat competent person could do it. I got all the parts for a 60k, but when I got the old belt off, I just wanted it back together so didnt do the water pump, but itd be another 30 minutes to do it.

joeyj

after you get everything off, IIRC there's virtually nothing else to do but take the 5 bolts off the water pump to change that, so it was a "might as well do it while im down here" sort of deal. it shouldn't have taken more than 30 minutes to remove and reinstall the new pump.

Racman709394

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hm....i am having the same problem.....seems like i gotta check my balance shaft too now. thanks otter

joeyj

just so ya know, i saved myself alot of grief from having to rip everything back off again by making everything EXPLICITLY clear where stuff matched with what. I put chalk marks on the old belt where TDC marks were in respect to the exact sprocket gear, and transferred those marks to the new belt just to be sure nothing moved.

Taking the extra 5 minutes to be thorough sure can save you alot of time and trouble when doing maintenence on your car!

otter

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Even doing that, things can be put together wrong, especially if something manages to spin a bit without you noticing. Everything the timing belt attaches to rotates at different speeds, which is why it takes 6 crank rotations for everything to line up.

The service manual has diagrams of where all the pulleys should be positioned and shows how to ensure that the balance shafts are in phase.

Racman709394

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i have the service manual and me and my mechanic followed the same thing just to double check, but in the end since my step dad's mechanic marked like 3 spots....soo....now this will be the 4th time i am taking my timing belt off....hahahah sucks *****....

biglou360

otter where can i get the service manual?

joeyj

dealership, ebay, craigslist, maybe autozone?

MyRoN

any one got a how to with pics?

joeyj

idea occurred to me 1/2 way through that i probably should have done a write up on it w/ pics, but then shear laziness set in.....

I still remember just about everything, only did it 2 months ago, if you have any questions I'd be more than happy to answer