Gears won't go in
Nov 15, 2012, 06:14 AM
#17
I quite like this "feature." It prevents you from destroying the engine shifting into a gear that can't handle the speed you're going. Can't downshift into 1st above like 20mph. Same applies in 2nd. Go like 70 or 80 and try to shift into 2nd... you can't. I'd assume it's the same for all, but I haven't tried it for any higher gear.
You're quite mistaken.
20 mph is only 32 km/h and 1st goes way beyond that speed, I can and have geared down to 1st from 40 km/h or 25 mph and not just with the RA either.
2nd goes to 100 km/h or 62 mph or so. Downshifting to 2nd at 70 or 80 mph (3rd limits at 80 mph) would be pointless as that speed is beyond its operating range.
Having said that it's not that you cannot do it. My father had a friend who redlined 3rd then pulled 2nd gear with his Lancer.
He got lucky, he found a used engine for $900 and my father helped him install it.
Seriously though, it's only because most on here drive on flat and very wide roads that this is even being talked about. I've driven roads where if I didn't hit 1st out of a tight, steep uphill turn then I would lose too much speed.
Nov 15, 2012, 02:00 PM
#18
i'm assuming if ur going too slow ud stall and if ur too fast ud shoot off the road or sumn unusual?
please explain...
Nov 15, 2012, 02:30 PM
#19
im not picturing how ud need to not loose enough speed so u can get up a hill turn so that u need to shift down to 1st instead of just go slow thru it in 2nd or be in 1st instead of having to downshift to 1st...i just cant figure out how ud need to keep up enough speed but not go too slow, unless maybe if you're offroading or sumn...
i'm assuming if ur going too slow ud stall and if ur too fast ud shoot off the road or sumn unusual?
please explain...
i'm assuming if ur going too slow ud stall and if ur too fast ud shoot off the road or sumn unusual?
please explain...
Nov 16, 2012, 07:06 AM
#23
i agree...not ussually my plans either but i gotta do it sometimes...
but i still dont understand why downshifting to 1st would be necessary on a turning hill...just stay in 1st at the top of the rpm range and cruise thru as needed...or just maintain speed as needed in 2nd...in my experience theres still enough torque in our car/trans to do just about anything in 2nd that you can do in 1st....(with the exception of bucking and jerking around like an idiot)
w/e...i guess i dont go offroading enough, or fast thru narrow steep hill roads...
ill just stick to almost drifting around roundabouts....lol
(ps...who the flip flops came up w/ roundabouts..?...they're the most useless, pointless,dumb traffic intersection ever)
Last edited by nekkidlad; Nov 16, 2012 at 07:09 AM.
Nov 16, 2012, 08:27 AM
#24
traffic circles or roundabouts are useful in that if used properly, traffic is allowed to flow freely...i actually prefer it to a controlled intersection.
one example of a roundabout i agree with is one they JUST built near my house, it's a very busy intersection connecting 4 different towns, and it used to be a 4-way intersection with a 3-way stop, where the busiest of the 4 ways was the one without the stop, so if you can imagine a steady flow of traffic with an automatic right of way, meanwhile the three other directions are excercising the right of way in between the steady flow from the direction with no stop sign, often lead to lengthy waits, far longer than a light controlled or 4-way intersection...the only dumb part about it, is they built a decorative mountain in the middle so you can't see the other side of it, so the people that are "nearly" drifting through a 3/4 rotaion of it, often come as a surprise.
one example of a roundabout i agree with is one they JUST built near my house, it's a very busy intersection connecting 4 different towns, and it used to be a 4-way intersection with a 3-way stop, where the busiest of the 4 ways was the one without the stop, so if you can imagine a steady flow of traffic with an automatic right of way, meanwhile the three other directions are excercising the right of way in between the steady flow from the direction with no stop sign, often lead to lengthy waits, far longer than a light controlled or 4-way intersection...the only dumb part about it, is they built a decorative mountain in the middle so you can't see the other side of it, so the people that are "nearly" drifting through a 3/4 rotaion of it, often come as a surprise.
Last edited by CrAnSwIcK; Nov 16, 2012 at 08:29 AM.
Nov 16, 2012, 07:29 PM
#25
i agree...not ussually my plans either but i gotta do it sometimes...
but i still dont understand why downshifting to 1st would be necessary on a turning hill...just stay in 1st at the top of the rpm range and cruise thru as needed...or just maintain speed as needed in 2nd...in my experience theres still enough torque in our car/trans to do just about anything in 2nd that you can do in 1st....(with the exception of bucking and jerking around like an idiot)
w/e...i guess i dont go offroading enough, or fast thru narrow steep hill roads...
ill just stick to almost drifting around roundabouts....lol
(ps...who the flip flops came up w/ roundabouts..?...they're the most useless, pointless,dumb traffic intersection ever)
but i still dont understand why downshifting to 1st would be necessary on a turning hill...just stay in 1st at the top of the rpm range and cruise thru as needed...or just maintain speed as needed in 2nd...in my experience theres still enough torque in our car/trans to do just about anything in 2nd that you can do in 1st....(with the exception of bucking and jerking around like an idiot)
w/e...i guess i dont go offroading enough, or fast thru narrow steep hill roads...
ill just stick to almost drifting around roundabouts....lol
(ps...who the flip flops came up w/ roundabouts..?...they're the most useless, pointless,dumb traffic intersection ever)
Nov 17, 2012, 01:52 PM
#26
Because when your driving and you can go 35-40 mph you can either be in 2nd, 3rd,4th or 5th than you approach a 15mph turn going up hill 2nd lugs the crap out of the engine so you have to downshift and it's not like your going to keep it in first til the next hill redlining 1st gear some times you just have to... O and if you rev match before you downshift the gear goes in
I saw a video that shows the type of thing I am referring to.
I will search and post it Nekkidlad.
Nov 17, 2012, 04:39 PM
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Stricter driving exams and training routines, -and- the fact that you need to take your test in a manual. That alone weeds out a lot of bad drivers. If the same rule applied here, there would be 80% less cars on the road in Edmonton, and I kid you not.
Nov 18, 2012, 09:28 AM
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If u gently keep trying to put it 1st it will go in a couple seconds. Only time i do this is on my way to school, Theres a sharp curve then a straight away >
anyway rev matching will also help or itll feel like ur car just hit a wall of water as its rev matching itself.
anyway rev matching will also help or itll feel like ur car just hit a wall of water as its rev matching itself.