beauty. i'll be investing in a nice set of wheels and tires before turbo... i'm probably going to sound crazy here but has anyone successfully converted to AWD?

 

No, that's not bad...i'm well over 200,000km, it's actually better to turbo older motors because they have looser tolerances, lol...more room for expansion.

Are you planning to race? is this going to be a high ouput build? the only thing i can tell you, is if you're going to turbo eventually you may as well do the head studs now...there is a method to replace them without moving the head, basically to remove and replace/torque them one at a time in the same order you would normally install them. If you think you might go to a high boost build eventually it might be a good idea to start sourcing parts, like main bearings, rods and pistons. Low boost a stock block will take the abuse. say 240-250whp is a pretty safe range...

LSD makes all the difference it advertises...

true story, timing belt failed around 160,000km, turbo at 190,000, 215,000 and still kickin'

i still have my stock clutch in the garage in my scrap metal/emergency replacement part pile...i remember the stage 1 not being any different in size other than the thickness of the pressure plate leaf springs

No one i know of was successful in this, years ago Diavlo was working on the swap, and the car up and got stolen...a guy in russia by the name of n-e-o successfully converted a 4g eclipse to AWD...the cost i think is just not practical, unless you get the parts for free...then the work might be worth it if you have the right tools...

 

Check out users todd6027 as well as 94AWDCoupe.

This shows a similar effort:
http://boostedalberta.com/BoostedAlb...?t=2330&page=7

Also this is todd6027 above:
http://www.coltuk.org/phpbb3/viewtop...marion+evocolt

This guy too:

http://truestreetcars.com/forums/pro...ersion-15.html

 

Don, you don't seem insane, so don't even think about AWD conversion.

That said, I'd love to watch you try, as you do appear resourceful and tenacious.

 

But things are not always what they seem.
If you have a dream, skills and resources follow that dream Don.

 

it is an OEM flywheel, never resurfaced or removed, and last year i replaced the clutch/pressure plate with an OEM Exedy organic replacement kit.

i tried a few measurements without much luck, i wanted to get one through the middle and to the pressure plate fingers but the disk spline hole is to small to get over to the fingers. And i don't know where i was locating off of.

I got one off the face of the starter motor plate which was about 7.5 cm's out to the front of the pressure plate/fingers but this was just eye balling it as there is really no edges to measure up to.

 

last i heard there was one guy in England doing it i believe, but then his car was stolen or something. As far as i know there is TONS of fabrication work to do to the rear end, pretty much everything is different in the back.

 

That was Diavlo

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/04...onversion.html

 

Pure poetry

 

damn lots of posts. I'll address each one in a sec here, but in the meantime I have an update on the whole flywheel issue.

it appears that *drum roll*

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they sent me the wrong flywheel! i have in my possession right now, glistening from the sunlight off the windowsill, an aluminum clutch master's flywheel for a 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS........................................basically the most expensive paper-weight ive ever owned.

I think this was a screw-up on CM's part as RRM's records indicated that I did have the correct flywheel based on the model # they had.

After arguing with the guy at CM over the idea that my mechanic and I were doing something wrong and did not know teh mechanix, he asked me to read off the number etched on the face of the flywheel...i ran out to my car (im at work) and it turns out the number I had on there:

105426-11 should have read (if i am remembering correctly) 105426-10

So a fairly honest mistake but for a $400-500 piece of metal I'd like to get the correct one

oh well, i'm sending it back to RRM, should get a refund, then I'll have the proper one sent out.

what a waste of my time.

once I get it i think i'll start a progress thread on the whole engine swap. I saw a few of you referred to Diavlo's UK lancer swap which is a thread I often turned to when sourcing parts and describing the project to my mechanic. i can confirm that everything diavlo said also applies to the USA/Canada 2003 OZ Rally.

 

holy **** it's possible........................

I almost feel i owe it to this guy to make use of his excellent research and see this through to the end and (maybe) be the first 4G69 ralliart to go awd!?? ...

 

Thank you, I scanned over some replies and missed this before. I will do some reading!

I am hoping for 250-300hp once I am done but I won't be rushing to turbo...I still have a ways to go on my current swap (and even longer now having to wait for the new and proper flywheel to arrive..)

Do you just replace the head studs with OEM or are there aftermarket, stronger ones you'd recommend for turbo?

LSD will be one of the first things on my list. I see in your signature you have a number of parts which unless I am mistaken are from manufacturers way out in Australia? Have there been a few LSDs to come out for the Ralliart? What ones are good value/quality? What should I stay away from (if any 'duds' are on the market?)

Thank you. I have a great mechanic and having read through many of Diavlo's posts, I too can attest to being very attached to my car the same way he claims he was. This project is as much, to me, as wanting to learn and see my car improve as it is a stab at making a worthy "EVO rival" (unlikely), or at least as my custom plate will one day say..."EVO JR" lol. **** it must have broken the guy's heart when his car was stolen. As for the AWD conversion - yes it does appear do-able now...Diavlo was already pretty deep into the project and he had spent tons of time researching and confirming that many of the Outlander LS parts worked for the conversion...but it also seems very expensive, much more expensive than my swap has cost so far... What it will ultimately boil down to is if I'm putting out too much power for the 2wd.

 

thats good and bad man, to bad it took so long but its nice to know that your goona get the right one now,

 

Yah it was just a big mix-up between CM and RRM - RRM figured they had the correct flywheel and their inventory record was showing it as being for 06 Ralliart, but the etched in serial pegged it as being for an 08 Lancer GTS, so for the longest time I was lead on believing it was correct but just not built to spec. Colossal waste of time, but at least things can move forward now.

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An update regarding AWD:

I contacted one of my local auto recyclers who i purchased my motor from and they happen to have a 2005 Outlander LS AWD MANUAL 4G69 AWD transaxle in stock, low kms...on the shelf .................. do i take the leap?

 

whiteline suspension parts are available in north america from many retailers, and Quaife is in the UK, but their diffs are available here as well...

for the head studs, i used ARP, but any high strength aftermarket head studs designed for racing application will work...what you want is 11mm 4g63 head studs...same as all 7-bolt motors.

for LSD's your choices are Quaife, Wavetrac or RTM racing's LSD conversion unit (similar to phantom grip)...as far as i know, OBX and Kaaz never made one for this transmission.