What is quicker/faster stock for stock and with mods?

The Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart or 2000-2005 V6 Mitsubishi Eclipse (GT and GT-S)

 

Well...stock for stock...probably the eclipse (you talking about the spider or the coupe though?)....and faster to what 60 or the quarter? If its a quarter then a RA might take it.

As far as w/ mods go....I couldn't tell ya....depends on what mods. If your thinking I/H/E...then I would think the eclipse might have a slight tuning edge as SOME of the RA has already been optimized (like the headers and the exhaust piping)....whereas the eclipse might benifit more from those mods....

 

i raced my buddy's 2000 eclipse gt with intake and exhaust and he took me everytime. i didn't have any mods. we went to the track and he did i think a 15.6 for his best (also first time at the track) i did a 16.0(second time running at the track) i was pissed. i wanted 15's so bad.

 

I have beat V6 eclipses before off the line and if you are looking at new cars stock for stock then I would save the $8-9K and get a ralliart. You could almost get an EVO for the price of a new GT-S

 

if u wana tune it, get either the RA or a gen2 or gen1 4cyl eclipse. really hard to fit much into the v6 eclipse engine bay. or wait a year until the GS eclipse gets the same engine as the RA. then decide if u want the small form of the eclipse or the every day utility of the RA. both should perform about the same.

 

I'm pretty sure that the Eclipse if faster, and I think it also has a bit more top end.

And don't forget, the Eclipse does it pretty effortlessly. The engine hardly ever breaks a sweat. It's a cruiser, not a racer. You don't get very much sensation of speed.

We've had stock V6 Eclipse GTs break into the 14s, but it takes a good driver. Low 15s for the average driver.

if you can shift like this, you can hit 14s (and no, that's not me)

 

^get that off club3g.com?

I like his flip flops..thats the best part of it all...

I HATE driving in flipflops..

 

Thine tranny protest such harsh treatment.

 

yep. but it's really old... i think it's from 2001.

are you a member there too?

 

Ok Ok....I have owned both (2002 GT and 2004 RA). First off, you can fit A LOT into the GT engine bay (see RIPP modified for a SDS and someone makes a turbo kit for it).
Stock vs Stock (I'm talking MT here, no Auto-stick crap), the 3g eclipse GT owns every time. Higher torque and hp, even though weight is an issue w/ the 3g.
With mods vs mods.....again the 3g (assuming SDS for the 3g and RRM turbo for the RA) the RIPP SDS adds about 80-85 hp and torque which ups the hp to about 280 @ the crank. The RRM turbo I believe adds about 60-75 hp? For about 220-240 @ the crank for the RA.
I think we are really comparing apples and oranges here......until the 4g comes out....then you will have the same engine (4g69) in 2 different platforms (Eclipse GS and RA). The 4g69 will be highly tunable in the future with these options.

 

I could beat V6 eclipses off the line too if they weren't paying attention and have AT!
Price of the Eclipse GT is about 25k....RA is about 18-19k.....EVO about 34k
Almost an EVO for the price of the GT? Yeah, I almost have the extra 9k laying around for the EVO.

 

How's the GTS priced?

 

Str8 from Mitsu Website: GTS (MT) - $23,149; RA (MT) - $18,499; EVO VIII- $30,699; EVO MR - $35,499

I must have been thinking of the MR price!

 

He was paying attention and he stopped me afterwards and asked what I was driving because he coulden't believe it. The fact is that both cars run mid 15's in the 1/4. I'll take an RA and save some $$ and have more room for daily driving. And I was talking about the GT-S not the GT and a loaded GT-S is almost as much as an EVO.

 

The EVO RS is $28499. base msrp. The eclips gts is $24899 and the spider gts is $29749. So what I was saying is right. You could get an evo for just a little mor then a gts $3600 the be exact.