View Poll Results: What would you like to see in this Kit
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55.26%
Front Splitter with Canards
10
13.16%
Wheel & tire pkg's
15
19.74%
All of the above!
41
53.95%
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SPEC RA-400 Ralliart
#34
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well what i would to do is build a kit that doesn't need to be produced by Mitsu but somehow be authorised by Ralliart inc. to put geather a Kit that would give a Ralliart or OZ some originality. What mean by that is to have limitted production kit built in 1 year such as,example i would put togeather some kit's and they would be all numberd and documented, so in turn you would recieve say? the following
(this is only idea for now)
Ralliart 2004
-Turbo Kit
-Wheels & tires, limmited edition
-Front door graphics & dash emblem with a special number stampped on it like #001 for that modle year for a total of 200 kit's.
-slight body apperence kit.
-Certificate of authenticity by Ralliart Inc.
and so on, the possiblity's are endless really, i would like to still make it affordable.
i still have some homework to do yet.........but thanks to all of you for the ideas.
Keep'em comming!
(this is only idea for now)
Ralliart 2004
-Turbo Kit
-Wheels & tires, limmited edition
-Front door graphics & dash emblem with a special number stampped on it like #001 for that modle year for a total of 200 kit's.
-slight body apperence kit.
-Certificate of authenticity by Ralliart Inc.
and so on, the possiblity's are endless really, i would like to still make it affordable.
i still have some homework to do yet.........but thanks to all of you for the ideas.
Keep'em comming!
#35
OK, this seems to be getting alittle out of hand. The Ralliart IS the special edition. Remember that. It will prob never happen for Mitsu to make a special edition for their special edition. Esspecially if it puts it anywhere near the glits and glamour of the Evo. I think an aftermarket company making a kit is great... hell, I'd prob be right there in line for one, but dont expect Mitsu to have anything to do with it, other then maybe Canadian dealers who are Evoless.
#36
Originally Posted by wrecked
The Ralliart IS the special edition.
So where does that place the EVO then??? It's a specially limited special edition of the Lancer???
The RalliArt is to the EVO what the ES is to the RalliArt... and if there has been a special edition of the EVO, why can't there be a special edition of the RA???
And I once again urge you to let the EVO aside for a minute... and go back to a little calculus.
EVO = 271HP = 4x4 = 32K$US (right?)
RA = 162HP = 2x4 = 18K$US (top)
RA special edition = ~200HP = 2x4 = 22K$US
Now, do you see the place in the market that a special edition RA would occupy? So yeah, it would sell like hot cakes up here... but it would also sell like crazy down in the States, I don't even have a doubt about it. Once again, if they can sell a Neon with a turbo, then surely they can sell a good car with the same HP for the same price.
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#37
Originally Posted by ModernRacer
Ralliart 2004
-Turbo Kit
-Wheels & tires, limmited edition
-Front door graphics & dash emblem with a special number stampped on it like #001 for that modle year for a total of 200 kit's.
-slight body apperence kit.
-Certificate of authenticity by Ralliart Inc.
Keep'em comming!
#38
Originally Posted by WoRkZ
So where does that place the EVO then??? It's a specially limited special edition of the Lancer???
The RalliArt is to the EVO what the ES is to the RalliArt... and if there has been a special edition of the EVO, why can't there be a special edition of the RA???
And I once again urge you to let the EVO aside for a minute... and go back to a little calculus.
EVO = 271HP = 4x4 = 32K$US (right?)
RA = 162HP = 2x4 = 18K$US (top)
RA special edition = ~200HP = 2x4 = 22K$US
Now, do you see the place in the market that a special edition RA would occupy? So yeah, it would sell like hot cakes up here... but it would also sell like crazy down in the States, I don't even have a doubt about it. Once again, if they can sell a Neon with a turbo, then surely they can sell a good car with the same HP for the same price.
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The RalliArt is to the EVO what the ES is to the RalliArt... and if there has been a special edition of the EVO, why can't there be a special edition of the RA???
And I once again urge you to let the EVO aside for a minute... and go back to a little calculus.
EVO = 271HP = 4x4 = 32K$US (right?)
RA = 162HP = 2x4 = 18K$US (top)
RA special edition = ~200HP = 2x4 = 22K$US
Now, do you see the place in the market that a special edition RA would occupy? So yeah, it would sell like hot cakes up here... but it would also sell like crazy down in the States, I don't even have a doubt about it. Once again, if they can sell a Neon with a turbo, then surely they can sell a good car with the same HP for the same price.
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Just my thoughts.
#43
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Anyway, turbo or not, my point was that you can easily position a special edition RA in between the standard RA and the EVO... I mean, the RA won't hurt EVO sales anyway, it's never gonna be in the same category. A special edition would make the enthusiast go crazy though... and the journalists would stick to it like flies to you know what. And as you may know, that's how you build a reputation...
It's a shame that Mitsubishi themselves would never consider such a concept though... they wanna cut expenses, not add more. And whereas independant vendors might take 6 months to design and test a performance setup, manufacturers will take at least a year... considering the fact that it has to be perfect as far as reliability and safety goes.
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Anyway, turbo or not, my point was that you can easily position a special edition RA in between the standard RA and the EVO... I mean, the RA won't hurt EVO sales anyway, it's never gonna be in the same category. A special edition would make the enthusiast go crazy though... and the journalists would stick to it like flies to you know what. And as you may know, that's how you build a reputation...
It's a shame that Mitsubishi themselves would never consider such a concept though... they wanna cut expenses, not add more. And whereas independant vendors might take 6 months to design and test a performance setup, manufacturers will take at least a year... considering the fact that it has to be perfect as far as reliability and safety goes.
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#44
2005 MAZDASPEED MX-5 Miata Features
Engine 1.8-liter DOHC 16-valve inline-4
IHI turbocharger with 8.5 psi maximum boost
MAZDASPEED Protegé Specifications
Engine 2003 2003.5
Type 2.0L DOHC Turbo (170 hp and 160 lb. ft torque)
MAZDASPEED Protegé Pricing
Model Year TRANSMISSION MRSP
MAZDASPEED 2003 5 Speed Manual $26,995
MAZDASPEED 2003.5 5 Speed Manual $27,595
2003 Protegé Pricing
BODY STYLE TRIM TRANSMISSION MRSP
4 Door Sedan SE 5 Speed Manual $15 795
4 Door Sedan LX 5 Speed Manual $16,750
4 Door Sedan ES 5 Speed Manual $18,995
Just for refrence point, and 8k difference
Engine 1.8-liter DOHC 16-valve inline-4
IHI turbocharger with 8.5 psi maximum boost
MAZDASPEED Protegé Specifications
Engine 2003 2003.5
Type 2.0L DOHC Turbo (170 hp and 160 lb. ft torque)
MAZDASPEED Protegé Pricing
Model Year TRANSMISSION MRSP
MAZDASPEED 2003 5 Speed Manual $26,995
MAZDASPEED 2003.5 5 Speed Manual $27,595
2003 Protegé Pricing
BODY STYLE TRIM TRANSMISSION MRSP
4 Door Sedan SE 5 Speed Manual $15 795
4 Door Sedan LX 5 Speed Manual $16,750
4 Door Sedan ES 5 Speed Manual $18,995
Just for refrence point, and 8k difference
Last edited by rocketman; Jul 13, 2005 at 08:19 AM.
#45
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Yeah, I think it's a bit extreme... but they also have no car in that range over these models. So they went a bit further with the modding.
But it's a good reference though. That means that if they put around 4-5psi to the RA and went easy on the rest of the mods, the package could be kept under 5K$CAN / 4K$US...
I honestly think I'd have gone for such a package too if it had been offered... I mean, 27K instead of 22K to drive a 200HP car instead? I'd sacrifice on many other things to be able to get that...
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Yeah, I think it's a bit extreme... but they also have no car in that range over these models. So they went a bit further with the modding.
But it's a good reference though. That means that if they put around 4-5psi to the RA and went easy on the rest of the mods, the package could be kept under 5K$CAN / 4K$US...
I honestly think I'd have gone for such a package too if it had been offered... I mean, 27K instead of 22K to drive a 200HP car instead? I'd sacrifice on many other things to be able to get that...
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Last edited by WoRkZ; Jul 13, 2005 at 09:28 PM.