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May 10, 2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by reTro

Herez my take:

Mitsubishi RalliArt - 2.4L / 162hp / 162tq / 2922-lbs / $18,999
Nissan SE-R Spec V -- 2.5L / 175hp / 180tq / 2710-lbs / $18,300

head to head

The Spec-V's lighter, has more power, yet...

discuss

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May 10, 2006, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by redozrally

I didn't know the Civic Si (Sir here up north) was any competition for the rallliart...
maybe Integra Gsr

my civic si is only half a car lenth slower in the 1/4 mile and it has the same mods. if i put a vtec air flow controller on it, it would be much faster than my ra.

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May 10, 2006, 01:23 PM

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that last list u should of put the Focus SVT even though they dont sell them anymore. also Ra eat Si's for breakfest. lol and Spec V's are just freaking fast. there is no getting around that. only way a Ra is going ot win against that is if the guy doesnt know how to drive or you have mods.

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May 10, 2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kilo23

lol and Spec V's are just freaking fast. there is no getting around that. only way a Ra is going ot win against that is if the guy doesnt know how to drive or you have mods.

You'd be surprised. They're almost identical, it's usually a driver's race.

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May 10, 2006, 01:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by reTro

Herez my take:

Chevrolet Cobalt SS - 2.0L / 205hp / 200tq / 2991-lbs / $19,900
Dodge Caliber R/T --- 2.4L / 172hp / 165tq / 3308-lbs / $19,425
Ford Focus ZX4 ST --- 2.3L / 151hp / 154tq / 2685-lbs / $17,040
Honda Civic Si ------ 2.0L / 197hp / 139tq / 2877-lbs / $20,290
Hyundai Tiburon GT -- 2.7L / 172hp / 181tq / 3010-lbs / $18,495
Mazda 3s ------------ 2.3L / 160hp / 150tq / 2762-lbs / $16,880
Mini S -------------- 1.6L / 168hp / 162tq / 2679-lbs / $20,900
Mitsubishi RalliArt - 2.4L / 162hp / 162tq / 2922-lbs / $18,999
Nissan SE-R Spec V -- 2.5L / 175hp / 180tq / 2710-lbs / $18,300
Saturn Ion Redline -- 2.0L / 205hp / 200tq / 2933-lbs / $19,425
Scion tC ------------ 2.4L / 160hp / 163tq / 2905-lbs / $16,300
Impreza 2.5i -------- 2.5L / 173hp / 166tq / 3016-lbs / $18,295
Toyota Celica GTS --- 1.8L / 180hp / 130tq / 2500-lbs / $22,335
Totota XRS ---------- 1.8L / 164hp / 125tq / 2670-lbs / $17,880
VW GTI -------------- 2.0L / 200hp / 206tq / 3308-lbs / $21,990

you guys realize we have the lowest hp here

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May 10, 2006, 02:15 PM

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We're underrated. We put down as much power as a Spec-V.

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Ralliart - 157hp, 155lb-ft
Spec-V - 151hp, 159lb-ft

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May 10, 2006, 03:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ralliarts MVP

you guys realize we have the lowest hp here

I count 3 cars on that list with less HP. do you need glasses?

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May 10, 2006, 04:07 PM

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horsepower isn't everything .......some one here has a signature that says '' horsepower wins dyno competitions , torque wins races ''..........thats the truth and the vics ...i'll just say they're lacking..

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May 10, 2006, 04:25 PM

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I drove quite a few of those before deciding on the RA. I liked the SE-R spec V, except it felt like it redlined too quickly for my liking. It was still my second choice but I personally think that thing is dog ugly. I've read lots of complaints about the looks of the R/A, but I think it looks better than nearly all if not all of the cars on that list. Btw nice list, lots of info, thanks!

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May 10, 2006, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RaLLiBboY

Nice line-up but RSX Type-S

The 05 Type-S in my crew so far only has cai and full catback and he's up there with the Z's. THe base model RSX's can compare but not the Type-S. Also the V6 Tiburon

Idk but tune me in on specs and timeslips on that one so i can see how our RA compares. Idk to you guys but even though it might be true i hate being compared to a frekin corolla and a focus because of its reputation of being a slooooow car.

Don't be fool by the 'v6 engine, 6spd transmission and dual exhaust', the tibby is not faster. Also the fact they weight nearly 3,000lbs for a car with 172hp. I have video of me beating two v6 tibby and I consider myself a novice driver,

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Also, im gonna have to call BS on your friends 2005 RSX-s with I/E hanging or 'up there' with 350z's. Althought the 2005 Type-S is significantly faster and takes to mods better than 2002-2004, I/E is not gonna have you in 350z territory. Catback exhaust does nothing for the 2005, as the stock system is already freeflowing, very similiar to the DC5 Integra Type-R. If anything, CAI and DCRH and a catback will get you the added power, and they put you in 350z territory. I know for a fact I/H/E on a 2005 rsx-s can pull a 350z, because I watch my friend do it numerous time (I was holding the camera).

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May 10, 2006, 05:11 PM

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To Me Competition Would Be
Scion TC
Eclipse GT
Civic Si (new or old)
Any kind of GTI 1.8T
Jetta GLI 1.8T
Tiburon GT
If you want to put the WRX on the list you can put it but im not racing on from a dig lol

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May 10, 2006, 05:56 PM

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Is the low end Eclipse in our range?

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May 10, 2006, 06:06 PM

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i have yet to find a sentra spec v that could pull on me... however i have had mixed experiences with the tc and gts celica......

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May 10, 2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tuffguy

We're underrated. We put down as much power as a Spec-V.

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Ralliart - 157hp, 155lb-ft
Spec-V - 151hp, 159lb-ft

The only reason why it doesn't put down more is becuase it has to bring it's power through an LSD and the ralliart doesn't. I'd still say it's a drivers race. My brother has an 03 spec-v so maybe we'll find out soon...

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May 10, 2006, 06:36 PM

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Yeah, that what I said earlier. We wouldn't get blown out. But how much power (%) is lost due to the LSD?

If I'm not mistaken, manual RAs tend to dyno at ~150whp, which translates to 175hp at the crank. In that article, the 157whp translates to ~185hp at the crank.

If we truly made 162hp, a manual RA would dyno at ~137hp.

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