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Old May 9, 2006, 09:50 PM
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Hey guys, my friends and I have gotten into a tiny tiff about what cars compete with the Ralliart in class, weight, HP, and TQ

We know that most of the competitors are:
Mazda6
Nissan Setra Spec V
Dodge Neon SXT
Subaru WRX *not the STi*
Honda Si *older*

If any of those are wrong, or if there are more then that, anything would be appreciated.
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I wouldnt include the new mazda 6 or the new WRX.

Edit: Because they're faster
Old May 9, 2006, 09:58 PM
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by how much more? although this will probably start a spam war, trust me my thoughts are just simply wondering who's in what level in this class of car, if im gonna drive it i might as well know what can out flank me in corners.
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I didn't know the Civic Si (Sir here up north) was any competition for the rallliart...
maybe Integra Gsr
Old May 9, 2006, 10:33 PM
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I wouldn't count the WRX, nor any turbo car. If you're comparing cars in the same class as the RA, they will all be FWD and N/A. Like the Mazda, Sentra Spec V, Civic Si, RSX...

The Neon SXT might be considered the same class inasmuch as it's FWD and N/A, but it is definitely not in the same class for performance, build quality, and reliability.
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A brief list... (feel free to add more)

GTS
SpecV
Corolla XRS
Civic SI
Focus SVT
Mazda3
Neon SXT
tC
RSX and Type-S
v6Tiburon
2.5rs
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Don't forget about the Mini.
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Originally Posted by Arithmetic
A brief list... (feel free to add more)

GTS
SpecV
Corolla XRS
Civic SI
Focus SVT
Mazda3
Neon SXT
tC
RSX and Type-S
v6Tiburon
2.5rs

Nice line-up but RSX Type-S The 05 Type-S in my crew so far only has cai and full catback and he's up there with the Z's. THe base model RSX's can compare but not the Type-S. Also the V6 Tiburon Idk but tune me in on specs and timeslips on that one so i can see how our RA compares. Idk to you guys but even though it might be true i hate being compared to a frekin corolla and a focus because of its reputation of being a slooooow car.
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Originally Posted by Myszkewicz
The Neon SXT might be considered the same class inasmuch as it's FWD and N/A, but it is definitely not in the same class for performance, build quality, and reliability.
Agreed
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I am constantly competing with VW GTI's, VR6's, 1.8T's, and Focus in my class for Autocross. Civic Si's are common too.
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The I4 Tiburons are almost just as fast as the V6 Tiburons.

I kept up to them all the time in my old one(they pulled away until there back bumper was to my front bumper, then it stayed even)

So add that to the list if your going to add the v6
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the new pontiac G5 Pursuit GT should be added too I guess....which by default would include the Cobalt...

And the Focus ST4, which is basically a rebaded/uglified Mazda 3 GT

Basically any sport compact car for under $30 g's Cdn, aka $20 g's US.

Which brings up the sad point that with the Dollar at a high of $0.90 us why is it not reflected in things like auto prices?...heck, for my next car, if the dollar is still this strong, it'd be cheaper for me to just go buy it i the states and bring it up...
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you guys forgot the scion tc.........
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Originally Posted by lanzerralliart
you guys forgot the scion tc.........
naw the tC is listed in the "brief list" a few posts above.
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Herez my take:

Chevrolet Cobalt SS - 2.0L / 205hp / 200tq / 2991-lbs / $19,900
Dodge Caliber R/T --- 2.4L / 172hp / 165tq / 3308-lbs / $19,425
Ford Focus ZX4 ST --- 2.3L / 151hp / 154tq / 2685-lbs / $17,040
Honda Civic Si ------ 2.0L / 197hp / 139tq / 2877-lbs / $20,290
Hyundai Tiburon GT -- 2.7L / 172hp / 181tq / 3010-lbs / $18,495
Mazda 3s ------------ 2.3L / 160hp / 150tq / 2762-lbs / $16,880
Mini S -------------- 1.6L / 168hp / 162tq / 2679-lbs / $20,900
Mitsubishi RalliArt - 2.4L / 162hp / 162tq / 2922-lbs / $18,999
Nissan SE-R Spec V -- 2.5L / 175hp / 180tq / 2710-lbs / $18,300
Saturn Ion Redline -- 2.0L / 205hp / 200tq / 2933-lbs / $19,425
Scion tC ------------ 2.4L / 160hp / 163tq / 2905-lbs / $16,300
Impreza 2.5i -------- 2.5L / 173hp / 166tq / 3016-lbs / $18,295
Toyota Celica GTS --- 1.8L / 180hp / 130tq / 2500-lbs / $22,335
Totota XRS ---------- 1.8L / 164hp / 125tq / 2670-lbs / $17,880
VW GTI -------------- 2.0L / 200hp / 206tq / 3308-lbs / $21,990



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