Brake Flush
Mar 30, 2007, 05:45 PM
#18
Pad replacement and fluid flush done yesterday.
A couple of notes:
-You need less than 1 liter to do this.
-Made a DIY brake fluid catch can out of a 2 liter and some small clear tubing from the auto parts store.
-When bleeding the clutch....pay attention to the brake fluid level! If looking into the engine bay from the front, the clutch line is fed in from the rear bottom right of the brake fluid reservoir. It has it's own little chamber in there. Brake fluid appeared to be okay, but looking at that corner, it was empty. Took us awhile to get all the air out.....but it's good and firm now.
We got a considerable amount of air out of the system, and everything feels like new now. No more spongy brake or clutch pedal. The braking force is greatly improved with the Hawk HPS's. No noise at all.
Highly recommended to do this if you are upgrading your brakes. It's a LOT easier than I thought it would be. The front pads were ridiculously easy to change.
A couple of notes:
-You need less than 1 liter to do this.
-Made a DIY brake fluid catch can out of a 2 liter and some small clear tubing from the auto parts store.
-When bleeding the clutch....pay attention to the brake fluid level! If looking into the engine bay from the front, the clutch line is fed in from the rear bottom right of the brake fluid reservoir. It has it's own little chamber in there. Brake fluid appeared to be okay, but looking at that corner, it was empty. Took us awhile to get all the air out.....but it's good and firm now.
We got a considerable amount of air out of the system, and everything feels like new now. No more spongy brake or clutch pedal. The braking force is greatly improved with the Hawk HPS's. No noise at all.
Highly recommended to do this if you are upgrading your brakes. It's a LOT easier than I thought it would be. The front pads were ridiculously easy to change.
Last edited by Eclipse2Lancer; Mar 30, 2007 at 09:04 PM.
Aug 22, 2011, 09:09 PM
#24
bumping an old thread cause i could use some relevant information
i currently have in the works a set of SS brake lines coming in the mail as well as about to purchase some ATE Superblue to completely flush out the system
i had a guy however tell me that it probably wasnt such a good idea. does this statement hold any merit or should i just ignore it?
"Umm, I don't think you want to swap out any brake fluid out. Because DOT3 is probably what you have in the car right? Swapping out fluid will require you to replace the brake master cylinder (it's a headache trust me, not worth it). Plus you got to keep track of the lines your swapping, one false "mis-swap" of lines and braking could feel like 3 times worst. Plus your master cylinder's seals are brearing the already DOT3 fluid and bleeding the ABS. Draining and swapping fluid could damage those seals in turn extremely soft pedal. You could mix a little DOT4 if the store is out of DOT3, but anything else is a waste of money time and energy. Besides DOT3 is great for street use. It's NOT cars that are eat, sleep, and race on the track."
i'm a bit confused on some of his statements on whether or not that they're legitimate. opinions would be greatly appreciated and advice would be helpful as well
i currently have in the works a set of SS brake lines coming in the mail as well as about to purchase some ATE Superblue to completely flush out the system
i had a guy however tell me that it probably wasnt such a good idea. does this statement hold any merit or should i just ignore it?
"Umm, I don't think you want to swap out any brake fluid out. Because DOT3 is probably what you have in the car right? Swapping out fluid will require you to replace the brake master cylinder (it's a headache trust me, not worth it). Plus you got to keep track of the lines your swapping, one false "mis-swap" of lines and braking could feel like 3 times worst. Plus your master cylinder's seals are brearing the already DOT3 fluid and bleeding the ABS. Draining and swapping fluid could damage those seals in turn extremely soft pedal. You could mix a little DOT4 if the store is out of DOT3, but anything else is a waste of money time and energy. Besides DOT3 is great for street use. It's NOT cars that are eat, sleep, and race on the track."
i'm a bit confused on some of his statements on whether or not that they're legitimate. opinions would be greatly appreciated and advice would be helpful as well
Aug 22, 2011, 09:40 PM
#25
bumping an old thread cause i could use some relevant information
i currently have in the works a set of SS brake lines coming in the mail as well as about to purchase some ATE Superblue to completely flush out the system
i had a guy however tell me that it probably wasnt such a good idea. does this statement hold any merit or should i just ignore it?
"Umm, I don't think you want to swap out any brake fluid out. Because DOT3 is probably what you have in the car right? Swapping out fluid will require you to replace the brake master cylinder (it's a headache trust me, not worth it). Plus you got to keep track of the lines your swapping, one false "mis-swap" of lines and braking could feel like 3 times worst. Plus your master cylinder's seals are brearing the already DOT3 fluid and bleeding the ABS. Draining and swapping fluid could damage those seals in turn extremely soft pedal. You could mix a little DOT4 if the store is out of DOT3, but anything else is a waste of money time and energy. Besides DOT3 is great for street use. It's NOT cars that are eat, sleep, and race on the track."
i'm a bit confused on some of his statements on whether or not that they're legitimate. opinions would be greatly appreciated and advice would be helpful as well
i currently have in the works a set of SS brake lines coming in the mail as well as about to purchase some ATE Superblue to completely flush out the system
i had a guy however tell me that it probably wasnt such a good idea. does this statement hold any merit or should i just ignore it?
"Umm, I don't think you want to swap out any brake fluid out. Because DOT3 is probably what you have in the car right? Swapping out fluid will require you to replace the brake master cylinder (it's a headache trust me, not worth it). Plus you got to keep track of the lines your swapping, one false "mis-swap" of lines and braking could feel like 3 times worst. Plus your master cylinder's seals are brearing the already DOT3 fluid and bleeding the ABS. Draining and swapping fluid could damage those seals in turn extremely soft pedal. You could mix a little DOT4 if the store is out of DOT3, but anything else is a waste of money time and energy. Besides DOT3 is great for street use. It's NOT cars that are eat, sleep, and race on the track."
i'm a bit confused on some of his statements on whether or not that they're legitimate. opinions would be greatly appreciated and advice would be helpful as well
Aug 23, 2011, 06:02 AM
#28
Put The B to the S and you get BS !!
He is full of and overflowing bovine fecal matter.
If you were going to change to a silicone based brake fluid then what he says would be needed.
Go to AP Racing's website and check their comments on brake fluid.
Why would they say that their brake fluid can mix with any other DOT 3, DOT 4 or DOT 5.1 fluid if doing so would put you through a wall ?
I am using Motul DOT 5.1. It has higher wet and dry boiling points than DOT 3 and maintains its viscosity in the cold (-30C) better than DOT 3.
From my research, DOT 5 (silicone based) fluid is not recommended for daily driven or competition cars.
Go forth and bleed thy lines and may thou brake pedal always be firm.
If you were going to change to a silicone based brake fluid then what he says would be needed.
Go to AP Racing's website and check their comments on brake fluid.
Why would they say that their brake fluid can mix with any other DOT 3, DOT 4 or DOT 5.1 fluid if doing so would put you through a wall ?
I am using Motul DOT 5.1. It has higher wet and dry boiling points than DOT 3 and maintains its viscosity in the cold (-30C) better than DOT 3.
From my research, DOT 5 (silicone based) fluid is not recommended for daily driven or competition cars.
Go forth and bleed thy lines and may thou brake pedal always be firm.
Aug 23, 2011, 06:16 AM
#29
bumping an old thread cause i could use some relevant information
i currently have in the works a set of SS brake lines coming in the mail as well as about to purchase some ATE Superblue to completely flush out the system
i had a guy however tell me that it probably wasnt such a good idea. does this statement hold any merit or should i just ignore it?
"Umm, I don't think you want to swap out any brake fluid out. Because DOT3 is probably what you have in the car right? Swapping out fluid will require you to replace the brake master cylinder (it's a headache trust me, not worth it). Plus you got to keep track of the lines your swapping, one false "mis-swap" of lines and braking could feel like 3 times worst. Plus your master cylinder's seals are brearing the already DOT3 fluid and bleeding the ABS. Draining and swapping fluid could damage those seals in turn extremely soft pedal. You could mix a little DOT4 if the store is out of DOT3, but anything else is a waste of money time and energy. Besides DOT3 is great for street use. It's NOT cars that are eat, sleep, and race on the track."
i'm a bit confused on some of his statements on whether or not that they're legitimate. opinions would be greatly appreciated and advice would be helpful as well
i currently have in the works a set of SS brake lines coming in the mail as well as about to purchase some ATE Superblue to completely flush out the system
i had a guy however tell me that it probably wasnt such a good idea. does this statement hold any merit or should i just ignore it?
"Umm, I don't think you want to swap out any brake fluid out. Because DOT3 is probably what you have in the car right? Swapping out fluid will require you to replace the brake master cylinder (it's a headache trust me, not worth it). Plus you got to keep track of the lines your swapping, one false "mis-swap" of lines and braking could feel like 3 times worst. Plus your master cylinder's seals are brearing the already DOT3 fluid and bleeding the ABS. Draining and swapping fluid could damage those seals in turn extremely soft pedal. You could mix a little DOT4 if the store is out of DOT3, but anything else is a waste of money time and energy. Besides DOT3 is great for street use. It's NOT cars that are eat, sleep, and race on the track."
i'm a bit confused on some of his statements on whether or not that they're legitimate. opinions would be greatly appreciated and advice would be helpful as well
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