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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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New Car and Driver on Ralliart

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test

Notice the Blacked out NOT PINK tail lights.
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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I'm liking this car less and less everytime I read a artical on it. Think I'll start looking for a good used evo 8 or 9 >.<
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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it looks really nice, but it sux that it doesnt have the stickshift manual. im happy with my OG 04 Lancer RA
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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0-60 in 5.5? Wasn't Edmunds test a whole second slower than that?
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by HudsonFalcon
0-60 in 5.5? Wasn't Edmunds test a whole second slower than that?
Please be true. Please be true. Please be true.

Also: Aftermarket wheel/tire package. Immediately.

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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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edmunds is known for having the lowest times. something i have noticed over the years.

its funny though a stock vw gti is faster in a straight line the new RA from the same people. the car and driver 'driver' ran a 0-60 in 6seconds and the quarter at 14.6@95mph for the gti.

me thinks the RA is turning out to no longer be a future purchase for me. i would have to void the warranty in the first month in mods for the car being so slow.
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HudsonFalcon
0-60 in 5.5? Wasn't Edmunds test a whole second slower than that?
straight from the edmunds article:

By the way, we don't apply atmospheric corrections to acceleration numbers of turbocharged vehicles. Unlike naturally aspirated engines, modern turbo engines make their own atmosphere, so applying a weather correction to them is double-dipping and you get a bogus acceleration time.

i assume the RA falls somewhere in the middle....
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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I'd be more apt to believe edmunds. Car and Driver usually does more "paper-testing" without actually running things. And several magazines/car sites have reviewed the Ralliart stating high 6 second 0-60, all except Car and Driver. Hmmmm. The Edmunds video definitely proves the launch is very doggy on the ralliart though. And checkout their observed mpg...16...wow
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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I think with a better set of rubber and a manual transmission and you have a winner straight from the dealer.
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jon528
edmunds is known for having the lowest times. something i have noticed over the years.

its funny though a stock vw gti is faster in a straight line the new RA from the same people. the car and driver 'driver' ran a 0-60 in 6seconds and the quarter at 14.6@95mph for the gti.

me thinks the RA is turning out to no longer be a future purchase for me. i would have to void the warranty in the first month in mods for the car being so slow.
The GTI has launch control which is basically just like the MR. Straight line performance is a very minor aspect for me personally (I think my RSX is in the low 7's). It is the handling that moves my soul. Catching up to higher hp cars in the turns is a great feeling. I could care less that they blast away from me in the straights because it lets me just catch up to them again.

From the sounds of the more extensive tests is that new rims, tires, and maybe minor suspension tweaks (sway bars) could yield far greater performance numbers. But, I'm still not sold either way but I am still really excited for this car.
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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I'm liking this car less and less everytime I read a artical on it. Think I'll start looking for a good used evo 8 or 9 >.<
I agree with you. Mitsubishi trying to shove the automatic down our throats has caused this car to bloat up in the pricing to a point where it isn't competitive anymore. Especially when you consider that you can get a true EVO used for far less with better performance and road presence. My advice and it has been from the beginning; 5-6 speed traditional manual. Would drop the price by $2,000 guaranteed. That would make it what? 25k? That's more like it.
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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"Quicker than a WRX?" I wonder if they even tested it to get 5.5? A ringer maybe? That does sound a little too fast, but the last review sounded too slow. I think it should be right around 6 sec. to 60. Then again they probably drove it like they stole it and thats something I would'nt do (at least until its good and broken in). I guess I have'nt completely given up on it yet. I'll wait for more reviews and "real" performance numbers. The 16mpg does scare me though...
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 10:44 AM
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"Quicker than a WRX?" I wonder if they even tested it to get 5.5? A ringer maybe? That does sound a little too fast, but the last review sounded too slow. I think it should be right around 6 sec. to 60. Then again they probably drove it like they stole it and thats something I would'nt do (at least until its good and broken in). I guess I have'nt completely given up on it yet. I'll wait for more reviews and "real" performance numbers. The 16mpg does scare me though...
I had always expected 0-60 in 6.0, give or a take a 10th. I'd be perfectly happy with that.
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Hey guys this is my first post here but i have been following news on the ralliart for a while now. Anyway i just wanted to point out that if you scroll down in the car and driver article and click the test sheet link under downloads you'll find the specific test info. It says that they used D sport (auto) mode and brake torqued it at 3500 rpm to build boost and then launched it, which explains the 5.5 seconds 0-60. They also got a quarter mile time of 14.3 seconds. Edmunds didn't brake torque and just took off like a granny, which explains the significantly slower times.
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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Hey guys this is my first post here but i have been following news on the ralliart for a while now. Anyway i just wanted to point out that if you scroll down in the car and driver article and click the test sheet link under downloads you'll find the specific test info. It says that they used D sport (auto) mode and brake torqued it at 3500 rpm to build boost and then launched it, which explains the 5.5 seconds 0-60. They also got a quarter mile time of 14.3 seconds. Edmunds didn't brake torque and just took off like a granny, which explains the significantly slower times.
This isn't a car I'm inclined to brake-torque.

EDIT: Just read the doc that bru91 mentioned. If I understand it correctly, brake-torquing is worth about 3/10ths to 60. I could live with a 5.8 second 0-60 for sure.

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