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Aug 14, 2008, 01:28 PM
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your welcome. And there's a post a little farther down discussing Robispec and some of the work done to the car. Tuning Tech. is also performing some of their magic on the car so it'll be interesting to see what they can extract.....safely.
Aug 14, 2008, 01:45 PM
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Well, that's not quite true. MMC does not GIVE cars away. HKS and Jun both payed for their cars.
And if your really worried about track times, Robi Fuller of Robispec, while testing and tuning a pre-prod. Ralliart Lancer @ Willowsprings managed a lap time in the mid 1:30's on street tires. The car was also sporting a prototype set of KW coilovers and BBK. If your not familiar with Willowsprings and it's lap times, check out the latest Road & Track mag. and look at the lap times some of the super exotics were putting down. For instance, a 997 Porsche GT3 RS (also sporting factory coilovers, carbon brakes and Supercup tires) driven by a pro driver posted a 1:33:xx.
So does the Ralliart have track potential? Oh yes...
And if your really worried about track times, Robi Fuller of Robispec, while testing and tuning a pre-prod. Ralliart Lancer @ Willowsprings managed a lap time in the mid 1:30's on street tires. The car was also sporting a prototype set of KW coilovers and BBK. If your not familiar with Willowsprings and it's lap times, check out the latest Road & Track mag. and look at the lap times some of the super exotics were putting down. For instance, a 997 Porsche GT3 RS (also sporting factory coilovers, carbon brakes and Supercup tires) driven by a pro driver posted a 1:33:xx.
So does the Ralliart have track potential? Oh yes...
So if you want to go track, put 4 tires like Toyo R888 on the X for $1200 and do a Zchip+ MBC /extra 100 whp+ 98 wtq for around $600 / And you will be leave the ralliart in dust.
And also you will need those mods on the RA too, if you go on track.
Of course you don't spend extra money on the X this way, since you spend this on the RA anyway to being competitive...
The RA has a potential due the engine. Everything else will fall behind the X.
That is why i think the RA will be a great choice for those who dont think too much about track racing. Maybe occasionally.
Aug 14, 2008, 02:14 PM
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Aug 14, 2008, 03:24 PM
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Thats is the point. When actually will match with the EVo numbers , you are basically there already. And you still not rocking the evo.
Mitsubishi is not stupid, they know the tuner market. Fact they even give out evos for HKS -JUN etc even before they start selling them.
The Ralliart will be a great daily driver. Not a good starting platform for racing.
You can make any car for race. But there is the fine balance between :
money - work- your goal.
Mitsubishi is not stupid, they know the tuner market. Fact they even give out evos for HKS -JUN etc even before they start selling them.
The Ralliart will be a great daily driver. Not a good starting platform for racing.
You can make any car for race. But there is the fine balance between :
money - work- your goal.
Well, that's not quite true. MMC does not GIVE cars away. HKS and Jun both payed for their cars.
And if your really worried about track times, Robi Fuller of Robispec, while testing and tuning a pre-prod. Ralliart Lancer @ Willowsprings managed a lap time in the mid 1:30's on street tires. The car was also sporting a prototype set of KW coilovers and BBK. If your not familiar with Willowsprings and it's lap times, check out the latest Road & Track mag. and look at the lap times some of the super exotics were putting down. For instance, a 997 Porsche GT3 RS (also sporting factory coilovers, carbon brakes and Supercup tires) driven by a pro driver posted a 1:33:xx.
So does the Ralliart have track potential? Oh yes...
And if your really worried about track times, Robi Fuller of Robispec, while testing and tuning a pre-prod. Ralliart Lancer @ Willowsprings managed a lap time in the mid 1:30's on street tires. The car was also sporting a prototype set of KW coilovers and BBK. If your not familiar with Willowsprings and it's lap times, check out the latest Road & Track mag. and look at the lap times some of the super exotics were putting down. For instance, a 997 Porsche GT3 RS (also sporting factory coilovers, carbon brakes and Supercup tires) driven by a pro driver posted a 1:33:xx.
So does the Ralliart have track potential? Oh yes...
Aug 14, 2008, 04:24 PM
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Vince, you have to remember that the RA talked about in that thread is highly modified. Probably $6-7k worth in mods from the wheels/tires, BBK, and KW suspension. If someone is interested in racing only wouldn't it be a much better choice to buy the base GSR for about the same amount of money you would have spent on the RA and mods? Plus the GSR has SAWC with AYC and more power to boot.
Aug 14, 2008, 05:41 PM
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I don't think the RA and the GSR are comparable. It is simply based on transmission choice IMO. If you want SST and want to save 10-15k then go RA, if you want more power and the rear diff, and you like to shift, and you like a hard ride, and you like a lot of maintenance, and you want a shorter warranty, get the GSR.
Aug 14, 2008, 06:00 PM
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I don't think the RA and the GSR are comparable. It is simply based on transmission choice IMO. If you want SST and want to save 10-15k then go RA, if you want more power and the rear diff, and you like to shift, and you like a hard ride, and you like a lot of maintenance, and you want a shorter warranty, get the GSR.
as soon as you mod your car your warranty is gone. Faster then the bone stock GSR
Aug 14, 2008, 06:39 PM
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Aug 15, 2008, 01:05 PM
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Aug 15, 2008, 01:21 PM
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Vince, you have to remember that the RA talked about in that thread is highly modified. Probably $6-7k worth in mods from the wheels/tires, BBK, and KW suspension. If someone is interested in racing only wouldn't it be a much better choice to buy the base GSR for about the same amount of money you would have spent on the RA and mods? Plus the GSR has SAWC with AYC and more power to boot.
Now, I can imagine that for the majority of potential Ralliart buyers, going the full spec. coilover and BBK route will probably be cost prohibitive. Not to mention that most of these cars will not set a wheel on a track, in which case going the full monty with coilvers and BBK's is pretty much overkill.
Most owners will settle on a nice set of springs/wheels/tires and some of your more typical drivetrain modifications. And that's fine.
I think what Robispec is trying to showcase is the potential for this car if taken to the next level. And in retrospect, that 'next level' is pretty freakin' high.