hibby

I'd certainly hope so. A Probe GT was like 165 hp.

EDIT: This Civic forum **** is hilarious.

jRox

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09 RA vs 5th gen Prelude

Win for the RA

CyberP

Don't knock the Probe low hp. The car was capable stock at top 130mph. I have been told my stock RA on paper will do 144mph. Not a huge diff, at least on the top end. Well.... getting there that's a different story.

ambystom01

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I love the Honda hatred, of course a more expensive, newer, AWD turbocharged car will beat an older, FWD car or a newer, FWD car. The Si is down 50 HP, what do people expect? Take it to the track and it could be a different story, Honda has consistently made great handling FWD cars and that could result in a very close race.

ambystom01

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And how many people race top speed races? If you're going to do that, you might as well just go off the paper stats and save yourself the gas.

hibby

Amby read my mind. Top speed is often a product of factory restriction more than a product of power, gearing, or aerodynamics.

RS-0

because there is no paper in internetland?

ambystom01

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I think most cars will hit an aerodynamic restriction before they hit a power restriction. Look at the design of the Evo or the STI, not exactly Porsche smooth. Even the cars that claim a 200 MPH top speed can't even hit it. I doubt they're actually tested, I suspect they're produced using a wind machine and very fancy computer algorithms.

hibby

Hard to say. I think one of the auto mags did an article on this last year, and missed 200 with a number of "200 mph" cars. (To be fair though, they were on a runway with a finite length. Given enough room, I suspect the cars that claim 200 can probably do it, but who really has a 20,000 foot runway at their disposal? And really, thinking further, a power restriction and an aero restriction are basically one and the same. Either lowering Cd or raising horsepower will extend top speed, although perhaps not to the same effect.

TaddO 2

09 Ralliart vs. 05-06 G35 Coupe?

zweetz32

g35 coupe runs low 14's. Shouldn't have a problem with them. You'll lose to a 350z though. Even though it's the same motor and trans, it's littler and you'll lose. The later with the VQ35HR is even faster then the older 350z with the VQ35DE

skywalker

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cough cough Type R

zweetz32

Not ALL AWD turbocharged car will beat all older or newer fwd cars. A Dodge Neon SRT/4 will beat you everytime in a 1/4 mile race.

ambystom01

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Hence why I didn't say all FWD cars, the Cobalt SS is one of the best bang for the buck cars right now and it's FWD.

robertob

I'm blown away by the Cobalt SS. Just goes to show that GM can make amazing products when it tries to. Of course I read they are suspending the division that produces cars like this for the next couple of years.

RA is certainly better than my former '05 Saab 9-2x/wrx. The TC-SST is worth every penny, and the stock RA has more power than the 05 wrx ej20 with a re-flash and catless up/dp. I figure a RA with a re-flash and DP ought to be an amazing dd with more useable power 'under the curve' than either the WRX/STi or the Evo X.

I def prefer the RA as a DD to the GSR evo, though some may disagree. The evo's suspension will beat you up after a while. I had one for a week and while i LOVED the power and handling I was not as sad to see it go as I expected that I would be.