There is so much more technology and potential built into the RA its an insult to your intellect to consider a Hyundai. IMO

One other thing. There are gonna be a ton of crashed genesis.

Remember, this is just my opinion.

 

Only because some moron tries to drift it around a corner.

 

Hey my video i was able to do it in a FWD car and didn't come close to doing that

 

not everyone is an idiot




......just most people.

 

RA owners are blind in the face of facts. Although I repeatedly point out such things I get hit with pics of Hennessey tuned LS9 Camaros that will cost 60-70k. I don't get it, but have learned that on a RA forum, there is not much open mindedness. Yes, the tune and exhaust on the V6 with an intake will be MUCH better than stock.

I agree the Gencoupe interior blows the RA out of the water. The RA is an expanse of black plastic and a faux carbon fiber strip on a VERY STRAIGHT and unstyled dash.

The 2.0t info is private, shoot me a PM and I will get it to you. Not really private, just don't want to post it on hear and watch useless non-sense about how it is not possible.

 

Wow. Really? Where did we lose you?

The pic of the Hennessey Camaro was just for the sake of looks, and not the actual vehicle. I personally find it (camaro) to be a better looking car than the gen coupe, and for slightly more than a v6 gen coupe, you will be able to purchase a v8 camaro with eventually more tuner parts. There was talk of tuning a gen coupe, so why not talk about tuning other cars in the segment? I'm just trying to point out the options the OP (or anyone interested in purchasing a car soon) has. I don't think anything I said is incorrect, or unfair.

A tune and an exhaust will give power yields not much greater than would be achieved on any somewhat performance oriented NA engine. But once you get past the the few simple bolt-ons, power gaines become much more difficult (expense) to obtain. This is why cars that have turbos stock are almost always the easiest to get large power increases from.

I wouldn't knock anyone for getting a v6 gen coupe, but like I said, there's plenty of options in the segment, many which are better. Am I wrong? Give me a 370z over a v6 gen coupe any day.

I think there is plenty of open-mindedness here. What is the point you are trying to make? The gen coupe does certain things that a R/A can't, and vice versa. But I think it's fair to say that the R/A will be more robust to a tune.

I don't know why you have sand in your va......... ahhh nevermind.

 

Here are some more 2.0T tune only numbers.

Only an ECU mapping was done. Stock turbo, intake, exhaust everything.

Stock: 188whp(PS), Torque 30.2kg.m

ECU Tune: 223.6whp(PS), Torue 42.6kg.m

Approximately 35whp(PS) gain and 12.5kg.m torque increase.


The 42.6 is close to 300 ft/lbs.

 

My va......... ahhh just got cleaned thank you. There is no way the SS is even going to be close to the V6 in price. They are in limited production numbers now. You can't even put in an order for them. Again, lets not mix V8 with V6,.


I mentioned the supercharger, because you can get the base V6 and add the supercharger and still be less than the base V8. You keep comparing the top of the line V6 with the bottom barrel V8. Compare the base V6 with the V8 and you are talking a goo 7-8k. Plenty enough for supercharger and exhaust.

Base V6 price. 3.8 MT | $25,000 MSRP| $23,500 INVOICE

So once again, same as a base V6 Camaro. Please stick to facts. RA owners are blind to the facts.

And for those of you who think HYUNDAI is junk, those who live in glass houses.....check where Mitsu ranks.

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2009-...study/1439579/

 

right there with mercs? Im down with that.

Its much easier to build sleds( buicks ) than performance oriented ( Evos ) cars when reliability is your main focus.

 

Not to be an *** but i love how i asked which would be better and then which should be better after my surgery the RA or Coup 2.0T thats AUTO now its in the camero and v6 one. just IMO

 

First of all 1ps is not equal to 1hp, it's slightly less. So you're telling me with a SIMPLE tune this car is already @ 300wtq. I don't buy it whatsoever. Why don't you people actually wait until the d*mn thing is dyno'd here in America instead of quoting metric numbers and botching conversions. And isn't the Korean standard of rating engines different then the U.S standard??

And a side note, I am completely open-minded but when it comes to the gen coupe there is so much inaccurate information that doesn't add up floating around it's crazy. If you glance over at their forums it is flooded with 17-18 year old kids in college wanting to do massive sweeet drifts around corners. They thought their beloved gen coupe had only 3psi stock and if they turned the boost up to almost 20psi it would be at least 300whp easily. I actually read a V6 guy thinking he was going to get 30-50whp from a tune.

 

You mean, like these?

http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightlin...hotopanel..2.*

It does look like the injectors are maxed from 5500 RPM and up though, so that will be a must improve to get the boost up in those RPM ranges.

2000 RPM, 35% Inj Duty, 8 PSI Boost
2500 RPM, 51% Inj Duty, 13.7 PSI Boost
3000 RPM, 53% Inj Duty, 13.1 PSI Boost
3500 RPM, 53% Inj Duty, 12.1 PSI Boost
4000 RPM, 60% Inj Duty, 11.8 PSI Boost
4500 RPM, 69% Inj Duty, 11.2 PSI Boost
5000 RPM, 80% Inj Duty, 10.9 PSI Boost
5500 RPM, 92% Inj Duty, 10.1 PSI Boost
6000 RPM, 97% Inj Duty, 9.5 PSI Boost


Regardless of how the conversions are done, I am simply looking at the start baseline numbers and the tune numbers. Just use a percentage of increase. So again, 30+% torque gain from a tune IS IMPRESSIVE AS HELL.

 

To answer your question directly, the seats in the Coupe have much better support for a back problem than the RA. However, the RA will be easier to get in and out of as the the COUPE is lower with a fairly large side bolster. Of course the RA offers Recaros but I would stay away from those at all costs with a back problem. As far as driving, I don't think it will matter in terms of the transmission.

I am into backs, and I have been in both cars. You will hear arguments on this I am sure, but thats the facts. Stock RA seats are NOT GOOD.

 

Why is that? You are saying it is easier to build a refined, comfortable, smooth, quite car (Buick), compared to a hard riding, loud, unrefined car (EVO)? Please expand.

 

I beg to differ after sitting in a Genesis coupe. It is the cheapest interior I've seen on a new vehicle in years even worse than the Cobalt. The silver painted plastic on the console looks terrible. The Lancer dash is pretty plain but the quality of the plastics are better than that of the Hyundai. It's obvious that Hyundai cut major corners to get the pricing so low and sitting behind the wheel you will always be reminded where the corners were cut. This is an area where the coupe is miles behind the G37 coupe.