2009 RA or Genesis Coup
Mar 30, 2009 | 06:16 AM
#211
Yeap. Pretty much same mindset as I. That's why I ended up with the RA. There's just so much in that little car is incredible. The speed difference in the WRX is not that big and it can be overcomed quickly; and there's certainly no bad timing and/or missing gears as there is in the manual-tranny-only WRX.
Mar 30, 2009 | 11:09 PM
#212
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Interesting views from those who drove all 3 cars. I have'nt driven any of them yet, but would have thought it would go WRX>Gencoupe>RA or Gencoupe>WRX>RA depending if your focus was more on straight line speed and handling or on comfort, style and highway cruising. But I guess this is a mitsu forum so some bias to the RA would be expected. I'm really leaning towards the V6 GT Gencoupe or possibly even a Mustang GT, as I've heard nothing but good things about them.
I think I would compare the 2.0 turbo to the RA more than the V6. But I like the idea of having decent power and torque out of the box and not have to mess around with tuning right away. Later on maybe do an intake and exhaust in which the V6 seems to respond very well to. I was really interested in the rex, but all the motor issues turned me off to it and I just can't see getting a new car with worse power-to-weight ratio than my spec-v. I know you should'nt compare a modded car to a stock one though and the RA will respond much better to mods than my NA 2.5. I don't know, I guess I'll have to go and test drive them all and if the RA has any decent discounts by then, who knows...
I think I would compare the 2.0 turbo to the RA more than the V6. But I like the idea of having decent power and torque out of the box and not have to mess around with tuning right away. Later on maybe do an intake and exhaust in which the V6 seems to respond very well to. I was really interested in the rex, but all the motor issues turned me off to it and I just can't see getting a new car with worse power-to-weight ratio than my spec-v. I know you should'nt compare a modded car to a stock one though and the RA will respond much better to mods than my NA 2.5. I don't know, I guess I'll have to go and test drive them all and if the RA has any decent discounts by then, who knows...
Mar 31, 2009 | 06:39 AM
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Mar 31, 2009 | 06:42 AM
#215
True, and for the same money you are spending on tires and brakes for the RA, I can be buying a bigger turbo for the COUPE!
Mar 31, 2009 | 09:33 AM
#216
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Rotors and pads are inexpensive and rubber has to be replaced multiple times during the life of the car anyway.
You would still be down AWD, SST, Electronic Diff control, proven EVO 9 drivetrain and dont forget you are still driving a Hyndai with absolutely zero street or rally credit.
One blatant impression I got when at the dealership. A couple fugly girls came up to the 3.8 black coupe while it was in the showroom with their boyfriends tagging along ( It was a hyndai dealership after all ) saying " ah this is cute!" At that moment it hit me. Cool / rich girls know better and the rest are the types you dont want to be spending any commitment time with. Almost every chic I know wouldnt be caught dead in a Hyndai unless it was given to them as their drivers ed car.
I understand that for the money the gen coupe is goign to sell and be popular. There are just that type of people out there. But for the rest of the sane, civilized, performance and principal oriented drivers, Mily Vanilly just aint gonna cut it. For gods sake, Hyndai had to put out a commercial to teach people how to even pronounce the name of the company. No body gave a crap about them, not even enough to know what they were called and thats in the dirt cheap economy market.
In addition, the Korean automaker is eyeing the success of the Japanese and are trying to break in. One would think with all the other technical advancements the Koreans are making they would have done a more convincing job with the coupe. Then again, just cause the girls like to talk on pretty cell phones doesnt mean the boys are gonna buy their cars.
But lets not forget the fact that Hyndai did do a lot of development on the 4b11.
To Add: There is little to no trickle down technology between the 3.8 and 2.0t. Any technology that does trickle down will come from the X to the RA and then maybe, just maybe to the 2.0t gen.
Hopefully just an insightful opinion.
You would still be down AWD, SST, Electronic Diff control, proven EVO 9 drivetrain and dont forget you are still driving a Hyndai with absolutely zero street or rally credit.
One blatant impression I got when at the dealership. A couple fugly girls came up to the 3.8 black coupe while it was in the showroom with their boyfriends tagging along ( It was a hyndai dealership after all ) saying " ah this is cute!" At that moment it hit me. Cool / rich girls know better and the rest are the types you dont want to be spending any commitment time with. Almost every chic I know wouldnt be caught dead in a Hyndai unless it was given to them as their drivers ed car.
I understand that for the money the gen coupe is goign to sell and be popular. There are just that type of people out there. But for the rest of the sane, civilized, performance and principal oriented drivers, Mily Vanilly just aint gonna cut it. For gods sake, Hyndai had to put out a commercial to teach people how to even pronounce the name of the company. No body gave a crap about them, not even enough to know what they were called and thats in the dirt cheap economy market.
In addition, the Korean automaker is eyeing the success of the Japanese and are trying to break in. One would think with all the other technical advancements the Koreans are making they would have done a more convincing job with the coupe. Then again, just cause the girls like to talk on pretty cell phones doesnt mean the boys are gonna buy their cars.
But lets not forget the fact that Hyndai did do a lot of development on the 4b11.
To Add: There is little to no trickle down technology between the 3.8 and 2.0t. Any technology that does trickle down will come from the X to the RA and then maybe, just maybe to the 2.0t gen.
Hopefully just an insightful opinion.
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Mar 31, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Ive driven the RA, WRX and the 2.0t Gen coupe w/ track pkg. And my list would go RA>Gencoupe>WRX in terms of styling, performance and value. Just my .02
I will be makin my decision between the RA and Gen coupe within the next few months.
I will be makin my decision between the RA and Gen coupe within the next few months.
Mar 31, 2009 | 04:44 PM
#218
Rotors and pads are inexpensive and rubber has to be replaced multiple times during the life of the car anyway.
You would still be down AWD, SST, Electronic Diff control, proven EVO 9 drivetrain and dont forget you are still driving a Hyndai with absolutely zero street or rally credit.
One blatant impression I got when at the dealership. A couple fugly girls came up to the 3.8 black coupe while it was in the showroom with their boyfriends tagging along ( It was a hyndai dealership after all ) saying " ah this is cute!" At that moment it hit me. Cool / rich girls know better and the rest are the types you dont want to be spending any commitment time with. Almost every chic I know wouldnt be caught dead in a Hyndai unless it was given to them as their drivers ed car.
I understand that for the money the gen coupe is goign to sell and be popular. There are just that type of people out there. But for the rest of the sane, civilized, performance and principal oriented drivers, Mily Vanilly just aint gonna cut it. For gods sake, Hyndai had to put out a commercial to teach people how to even pronounce the name of the company. No body gave a crap about them, not even enough to know what they were called and thats in the dirt cheap economy market.
In addition, the Korean automaker is eyeing the success of the Japanese and are trying to break in. One would think with all the other technical advancements the Koreans are making they would have done a more convincing job with the coupe. Then again, just cause the girls like to talk on pretty cell phones doesnt mean the boys are gonna buy their cars.
But lets not forget the fact that Hyndai did do a lot of development on the 4b11.
To Add: There is little to no trickle down technology between the 3.8 and 2.0t. Any technology that does trickle down will come from the X to the RA and then maybe, just maybe to the 2.0t gen.
Hopefully just an insightful opinion.
You would still be down AWD, SST, Electronic Diff control, proven EVO 9 drivetrain and dont forget you are still driving a Hyndai with absolutely zero street or rally credit.
One blatant impression I got when at the dealership. A couple fugly girls came up to the 3.8 black coupe while it was in the showroom with their boyfriends tagging along ( It was a hyndai dealership after all ) saying " ah this is cute!" At that moment it hit me. Cool / rich girls know better and the rest are the types you dont want to be spending any commitment time with. Almost every chic I know wouldnt be caught dead in a Hyndai unless it was given to them as their drivers ed car.
I understand that for the money the gen coupe is goign to sell and be popular. There are just that type of people out there. But for the rest of the sane, civilized, performance and principal oriented drivers, Mily Vanilly just aint gonna cut it. For gods sake, Hyndai had to put out a commercial to teach people how to even pronounce the name of the company. No body gave a crap about them, not even enough to know what they were called and thats in the dirt cheap economy market.
In addition, the Korean automaker is eyeing the success of the Japanese and are trying to break in. One would think with all the other technical advancements the Koreans are making they would have done a more convincing job with the coupe. Then again, just cause the girls like to talk on pretty cell phones doesnt mean the boys are gonna buy their cars.
But lets not forget the fact that Hyndai did do a lot of development on the 4b11.
To Add: There is little to no trickle down technology between the 3.8 and 2.0t. Any technology that does trickle down will come from the X to the RA and then maybe, just maybe to the 2.0t gen.
Hopefully just an insightful opinion.
I am way too old to be worrying about brand envy. If it looks good, holds up and performs, I could care less who builds it. I do not need to be impressing the local ho bags with my car. That being said, I never knew MITSU was a prestige name plate. I always thought of them as the third bastard child of the OTHER Japanese cars. You know, the one that tries really hard to get attention, but no one ever really noticed or cared about.
You are correct though, there is no reason the 3.8 with German ZF tranny will stack up to the ultimate SST. The only thing the RA has over the COUPE is AWD and two more doors. Styling is individual. If you need AWD stick with RA. It seems to me that HYUNDAI will be cross shopped with the RA more than any other car. 300hp and 6 speed paddle shift should give RA a run for the money.
Mar 31, 2009 | 07:25 PM
#219
There are at least 5 shops working like crazy developing parts for the COUPE. Its like an hourly update as to progress for some of them. Crazy. Too bad the RA has not gotten that kind of attention. Its a bolt by bolt tear down and finding and then dyno results as soon as a new part is added.
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Apr 1, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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Apr 1, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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Apr 1, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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There's probably 1000 other things I could rattle off as well, but that should be the end of it. The difference when you are talking about the same car like an SUV or luxury sedan between the 2WD and AWD models is usally about 2-3grand.
Apr 1, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Rotors and pads are inexpensive and rubber has to be replaced multiple times during the life of the car anyway.
You would still be down AWD, SST, Electronic Diff control, proven EVO 9 drivetrain and dont forget you are still driving a Hyndai with absolutely zero street or rally credit.
One blatant impression I got when at the dealership. A couple fugly girls came up to the 3.8 black coupe while it was in the showroom with their boyfriends tagging along ( It was a hyndai dealership after all ) saying " ah this is cute!" At that moment it hit me. Cool / rich girls know better and the rest are the types you dont want to be spending any commitment time with. Almost every chic I know wouldnt be caught dead in a Hyndai unless it was given to them as their drivers ed car.
I understand that for the money the gen coupe is goign to sell and be popular. There are just that type of people out there. But for the rest of the sane, civilized, performance and principal oriented drivers, Mily Vanilly just aint gonna cut it. For gods sake, Hyndai had to put out a commercial to teach people how to even pronounce the name of the company. No body gave a crap about them, not even enough to know what they were called and thats in the dirt cheap economy market.
In addition, the Korean automaker is eyeing the success of the Japanese and are trying to break in. One would think with all the other technical advancements the Koreans are making they would have done a more convincing job with the coupe. Then again, just cause the girls like to talk on pretty cell phones doesnt mean the boys are gonna buy their cars.
But lets not forget the fact that Hyndai did do a lot of development on the 4b11.
To Add: There is little to no trickle down technology between the 3.8 and 2.0t. Any technology that does trickle down will come from the X to the RA and then maybe, just maybe to the 2.0t gen.
Hopefully just an insightful opinion.
You would still be down AWD, SST, Electronic Diff control, proven EVO 9 drivetrain and dont forget you are still driving a Hyndai with absolutely zero street or rally credit.
One blatant impression I got when at the dealership. A couple fugly girls came up to the 3.8 black coupe while it was in the showroom with their boyfriends tagging along ( It was a hyndai dealership after all ) saying " ah this is cute!" At that moment it hit me. Cool / rich girls know better and the rest are the types you dont want to be spending any commitment time with. Almost every chic I know wouldnt be caught dead in a Hyndai unless it was given to them as their drivers ed car.
I understand that for the money the gen coupe is goign to sell and be popular. There are just that type of people out there. But for the rest of the sane, civilized, performance and principal oriented drivers, Mily Vanilly just aint gonna cut it. For gods sake, Hyndai had to put out a commercial to teach people how to even pronounce the name of the company. No body gave a crap about them, not even enough to know what they were called and thats in the dirt cheap economy market.
In addition, the Korean automaker is eyeing the success of the Japanese and are trying to break in. One would think with all the other technical advancements the Koreans are making they would have done a more convincing job with the coupe. Then again, just cause the girls like to talk on pretty cell phones doesnt mean the boys are gonna buy their cars.
But lets not forget the fact that Hyndai did do a lot of development on the 4b11.
To Add: There is little to no trickle down technology between the 3.8 and 2.0t. Any technology that does trickle down will come from the X to the RA and then maybe, just maybe to the 2.0t gen.
Hopefully just an insightful opinion.
Apr 1, 2009 | 05:59 PM
#225
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i was in same dilemma, test drove the v6 coupe and was going to wait for the 2.0T to hit dealers until i hopped in the RA... def wanted it second i drove it... also +1 with AWD because im from new england but was seriously considering gencoupe, nice car as well...