^lol, like perhaps biased

 

The RA is a good car. It has a lot of things that few other cars have. I just don't get why people have to defend their purchase. If there was a one car fit all, all manufacturers would just copy each other. To some extent they do. Enjoy the RA.

As I have posted many times, I am looking for a cheap, economical, fun, performance based car. The RA is one of the most expensive and one of the least economical as far as MPG. I have not ruled the RA out, just looking at options. I was hoping to see a bump for 2010 but after seeing the Sportback specs, its staying as is, UNLESS they drop a manual in there as an option.

All I have said, was for the money, the 2.0T is going to be a good platform, for those comparing it to a NEON and COBALT, they have either never seen one in person, or never been in one. It is not a small car. It dwarfs the Tiburon. It is not a LAMBO or FERRARI on the inside, but at least it does come with leather.

It is FAR MORE QUIET on the inside compared to the RA. If you want or feel you NEED AWD, the RA in very tough to beat, especially with the WRX having blown 50+ motors now.

RA owners should be happy with their purchase. I have decided to wait a while to see how things shake out over the next 6-9 months before pulling the trigger on something.

I just like talking cars. To many on here take it personally.

 

As i said, I have been in it, and yes the interior is well done, although i don't see what your deal is with leather i could care less about leather had it in Acura; nothing special don't see that as an "at least it has" point. I was saying on how it's viewed unfortunately it's viewed by a general public as inferior. Are they right? No, Hyundai is on its way up definitely. If that doesn't bother you then by all means enjoy it. I test drove it, didn't like the ride and knew RWD was gonna be a (*****, didn't know we couldn't say that, so Pain) in the winter for me. I don't ever know what the deal is with a car being louder than another on the inside personally, unless it sounds like your in a wind tunnel, don't most people have the stereo on anyway? Idk though I could see that being a problem but on my drive down the RA wasn't atrocious, but if you prefer quieter that's your thing. Bottom line is, they're both great cars, and yeah the Lancer isn't necessarily a BMW when viewed by the public either. Whatever it is you choose I hope you do enjoy it (especially if it's an RA lol)

 

50+? Damn! How the hell is subie gonna let this happen? Sorry for goin off topic.

As for the discussion. The two cars can't directly compare the two per say. They appeal to different tastes. But where the Gen coupe excels in ride comfort, design and what not the RA makes up in performance. The Coupe will never beat an RA stock for stock on track or in the streets but it is alot more comfy to live with and easier on the wallet: payment, insurance, gas, maintenence, etc. It depends on ur needs. I do agree with dboz about the RA that it needs to be a little more fuel efficient and stick but from the looks of it we won't be seein any changes until 2011 unless mitsu does some last minute updates for 2010.

 

idk about comfy to live with, two doors is a PITA; but if you mean noise and such then yes. Btw does anyone know offhand a guesstimation of the Coupe insurance? I thought the RA was gonna cost me more than my RSX but it was less than it.

 

I wouldn't be suprised if the gencoupe was a bit more to insure than the RA is. Hell, my 05 Tiburon was ~$40 MORE/month than my RA is. I can imagine the gencoupe being right around the same rates as the Tiburon.

 

Hyundai Coupe has been tested by Motor Trend with a 0-60 of... 5.8 seconds,
Edmunds has the 2.0T doing the 0-60 in 7 flat As my buddy says: "Those are accord numbers!"

The RA gets to 60 A SECOND and a HALF quicker than the 2.0T Coupe, straight off the lot with no work needed, has AWD, and has the flexibility of four doors, not to mention a sweet transmission.

Thanks, but I know which one I would choose.

 

The V6 Gen was tested at 5.5 seconds in Motor Trend, not 5.8 - and that was without the ECU reflash as confirmed by the editor. So they are dead even right now. With the reflash, the Gen should hit 5.1-5.3

 

just like with reflash the RA should do better... whats the argument?

 

Yeah i think just two doors costs you more. I mean c'mon i had 155 crank hp with an automatic, why it was more i'll never know.

 

less safety features is one reason. AWD is better the FWD which is better the RWD (your location affects insurance rates as well of course, here in canada where we can get snow 3-6 months of the year (depending where) awd is gonna be lower, My trade in vehicle was a 2004 tiburon tuscani (v6) I paid more for that in insurance. That car had what 2 air bags? this car has how many? 6 or more if I remember correctly.

 

He meant the reflash from the factory, not aftermarket.

 

Insurance costs are based on many factors, mainly on estimated costs of repairs and accidents they are involved in which is usually age related. If your arguement held water, a HUMMER would be one of the cheapest vehicles to insure. AWD and its expensive so usually a older type buyer. Kids buy turbo cars and so by averages, they crash more due to lack of skill and experience. So if you are in your teens or twenties, you are going to pay more for those types of cars, because that is where the risk is for the insurer.

The average damage cost for a fender bender is about 2-3000k. For a Dodge Viper it is 30k. I would think that Viper insurance is through the roof. Not because of the car, but because of the costs involved in fixing it.

The Coupe is a large and heavy car with moderate horsepower. It has all the safetly features of any other car. It will not be expensive to insure.

I am 40 so insurance rates are pretty cheap for any of my vehicles. Of course I own 5 and have 13 insurance policies total, so they do give me a lot of discounts.

The safety of AWD is more of a myth than reality. In fact, since people feel AWD makes them invincible, I tend to find more AWD vehicles in crashes than RWD. RWD drivers know they need to take it easier in poor conditions. AWD go like bat out of hell.

For a quick read.

http://www.auto-accident-injury.org/...eel_drive.html

 

Doubt a factory reflash would shave up to .4 seconds off.

 

I went to my insurance company the other day and the 2.0T was less to insure than my Lancer by $4, the X by $35 and the RA by $36. Insurance companies also look at the brand of the car in this case Acura, so the RSX would cost a bit more because its considered a "luxury sport coupe". Luxury cars cost more to insure than a regular economy car.