ModenaTwinTurbo

iTrader: (1)

its from audi? links? from what i read in the past this was developed for mitsu chrysler and hyundai...about 4 years ago..this is automated manual... audi is smg or something...


Eddie Rosado

imbonez9

Ok my mistake its not the same they took it and "made it better" stated multiple websites.

ModenaTwinTurbo

iTrader: (1)

ehh its a pretty old design. formula one started using eccentric input shafts if not before the 90's right at the begining of the 90's. ferrari was possibly the first with obviously the "F1" tranny.

so i dont think they 'took it' from anyone. they hired a company and told them what they needed, and how it would need to be implemented. and the company gave its version.

if i start a new car company it doesnt mean i took an evo and made it better..... see what i mean?


but, i might be wrong. i read most of this info like i said 4 years ago, maybe the same company made the trannies for all 5 or 6 companies.


Eddie Rosado

imbonez9

http://www.caradvice.com.au/3810/mit...in-clutch-sst/The highlight of the package though is the new Twin Clutch SST. Although Mitsubishi have changed the name, it is essentially a similar setup to Volkswagen/Audi’s DSG.

GPTourer

That's not true. ITs been shown that the RA and Gen coupe share the same open deck design, esssentially making it a factory turbo kit on an N/A Lancer 4b11. The Evo X has a differently cast block and is a semi-closed deck design, making it stronger.

GPTourer

I read that, but it is ambiguous to me. Sounds like they are saying the Mitsu box is a similar design to VW/Audis. But what you are syaing is that Mitsu bought/licensed the VW design, adapted it for their use and changed the name. I can see how that can be interpreted, but I've never heard that before. I was under the impression that Mitsu developed it themselves inhouse or hired an outside tranmssion specialist (like Ricardo, Getrag, Asin, etc) to help them develop it for them in house.

The fact that the end result is similar to VAG's doesn't make it the same with a different name.

EsRt2evo

iTrader: (7)

No no and no. It uses the same 4B11 in the Evo X.

Quick link:
http://streetimportonline.com/sio/mi...ed-engine.html

GPTourer

That's interesting, because it doesn't jibe with whats in this thread, which you even posted in about it having an open deck.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ot...-0t-coupe.html

GPTourer

Nor here:
http://www.genesisdriven.com/2009/03...with-pictures/

heavyD

My biggest beef with the Genesis 2.0L turbo is that while it's similar in design to the 411B the block is a fair bit weaker so high HP will require major internal upgrades or even a 411B block swap. The Hyundai 2.0L is open deck and has only 2-bolt mains which means it's really no stronger than your garden variety aluminum block 4-cylinder. The Ralliart will be able to accept much more power.

heavyD

The Ralliart uses the same engine as the EVO X with a smaller turbocharger and revised fuel system. The Ralliart and EVO X 411B blocks are identical so you are clearly wrong and so is the article. I especially like how they can estimate 400HP from an engine without any basis other than looking at the block. They also contradict themselves as in the first paragraph they say the Hyundai 2.0L is not the same as the Ralliart and EVO X 411B then they say the the open deck block is sourced from the Ralliart's 411B.

GPTourer

Nice ninja edit. Did you bother reading the links I provided?

I could care less about being wrong about the RA, hooray. The Genesis does not use an Evo X bloc.

heavyD

Well you should as spouting off false information isn't anything to be proud about.

GPTourer

I'm man enough to know when I'm wrong, rather then go back and edit it to try to make myself look better.

heavyD

I only edited to show that the article was lacking expertise. It isn't the first time I've edited a post and it won't be the last time and I've read that article previously at NASIOC. It's got nothing to do with being man enough for anything.