Manual transmisson
May 2, 2010 | 11:32 PM
#17
People are discussing the manual transmission as an optional item. It can't hurt sales. It can only help, and the point that has been made is that, in light of Mitsubishi's struggling sales figures at present, doesn't it make sense to adopt the Burger King motto and let people have it their way?
To be absolutely honest, I have not been impressed with what this company does with transmissions on a budget. From what I understand, the only difference between the 5-speed manual from the 3G Eclipse and the 6-speed manual from the 4G is a smaller, more-compact gear (they essentially took 5th gear and made it into two weaker gears or something along those retarded lines). I am fairly certain that both transmissions are able to bolt up to a standard 6g72 motor (because I am pretty sure that the 5-speed from the 3G bolts up to the 6g75 motor from the 4G Eclipse). I read that A LONG time ago on another forum, but I can try and source that information if requested. Bottom line, if you are unimpressed with what Mitsubishi can do with a TC-SST transmission (that should have come directly out of an MR), buckle your ****ing seat-belts for a new manual option (which definitely won't come out of the GSR). Fuel economy, here we come!
To be absolutely honest, I have not been impressed with what this company does with transmissions on a budget. From what I understand, the only difference between the 5-speed manual from the 3G Eclipse and the 6-speed manual from the 4G is a smaller, more-compact gear (they essentially took 5th gear and made it into two weaker gears or something along those retarded lines). I am fairly certain that both transmissions are able to bolt up to a standard 6g72 motor (because I am pretty sure that the 5-speed from the 3G bolts up to the 6g75 motor from the 4G Eclipse). I read that A LONG time ago on another forum, but I can try and source that information if requested. Bottom line, if you are unimpressed with what Mitsubishi can do with a TC-SST transmission (that should have come directly out of an MR), buckle your ****ing seat-belts for a new manual option (which definitely won't come out of the GSR). Fuel economy, here we come!
May 2, 2010 | 11:35 PM
#18
I figured as much. I still own a 3G, and there was talk of this issue once people started looking at swapping up to a 6g75. Then, all that talk changed into created a bastardized 6g75/74 3.6L hybrid motor. After that, I bought the Ralliart and gave up. I had the option of buying a new 3.8L 4G. That was not happening.
May 3, 2010 | 06:36 AM
#20
People are discussing the manual transmission as an optional item. It can't hurt sales. It can only help, and the point that has been made is that, in light of Mitsubishi's struggling sales figures at present, doesn't it make sense to adopt the Burger King motto and let people have it their way?
To be absolutely honest, I have not been impressed with what this company does with transmissions on a budget. From what I understand, the only difference between the 5-speed manual from the 3G Eclipse and the 6-speed manual from the 4G is a smaller, more-compact gear (they essentially took 5th gear and made it into two weaker gears or something along those retarded lines). I am fairly certain that both transmissions are able to bolt up to a standard 6g72 motor (because I am pretty sure that the 5-speed from the 3G bolts up to the 6g75 motor from the 4G Eclipse). I read that A LONG time ago on another forum, but I can try and source that information if requested. Bottom line, if you are unimpressed with what Mitsubishi can do with a TC-SST transmission (that should have come directly out of an MR), buckle your ****ing seat-belts for a new manual option (which definitely won't come out of the GSR). Fuel economy, here we come!
To be absolutely honest, I have not been impressed with what this company does with transmissions on a budget. From what I understand, the only difference between the 5-speed manual from the 3G Eclipse and the 6-speed manual from the 4G is a smaller, more-compact gear (they essentially took 5th gear and made it into two weaker gears or something along those retarded lines). I am fairly certain that both transmissions are able to bolt up to a standard 6g72 motor (because I am pretty sure that the 5-speed from the 3G bolts up to the 6g75 motor from the 4G Eclipse). I read that A LONG time ago on another forum, but I can try and source that information if requested. Bottom line, if you are unimpressed with what Mitsubishi can do with a TC-SST transmission (that should have come directly out of an MR), buckle your ****ing seat-belts for a new manual option (which definitely won't come out of the GSR). Fuel economy, here we come!
remember folks, we're not driving baby evos, we're driving lancers on steroids...
May 3, 2010 | 10:37 AM
#22
if you think about it, the way most people go with these cars (myself included, for awhile anyway) makes this a great analogy actually. all the power with hardly any relative control, just like 'roids... where's the f***in protein ma?!?!
on topic tho, i think i prefer the sst over a base-lancer style manual if that is in fact what will probably be offered. if my sst does end up failing, the cost of a gsr swap would probably be comparable to what it would take to beef up the lancer transmission enough to handle just upto, not even more than the sst can anyway. if you're going to put down more power than the sst can handle, you'll probably be upgrading the manual trans to a gsr version anyway.
this is all speculation, of course, but i would think it the likely course of action for mitsu if they do in fact decide to offer a manual
on topic tho, i think i prefer the sst over a base-lancer style manual if that is in fact what will probably be offered. if my sst does end up failing, the cost of a gsr swap would probably be comparable to what it would take to beef up the lancer transmission enough to handle just upto, not even more than the sst can anyway. if you're going to put down more power than the sst can handle, you'll probably be upgrading the manual trans to a gsr version anyway.
this is all speculation, of course, but i would think it the likely course of action for mitsu if they do in fact decide to offer a manual
Last edited by 03chi-town0Z; May 3, 2010 at 10:41 AM.
May 3, 2010 | 11:39 AM
#23
I always love to see ridiculous 6G7x builds. Some guy in Maryland is apparently making these motors for 3G's. I even heard recently through the grapevine that, since the 4g64 GS 3G is possible to be converted to AWD (BlueBombShell), the GT guys were giving it a try as well with a hoard of various parts.
All very interesting builds going on right now.
May 3, 2010 | 11:42 AM
#24
Either way, it isn't going to make this an EVO by any stretch of the imagination.
May 3, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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May 3, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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I always love to see ridiculous 6G7x builds. Some guy in Maryland is apparently making these motors for 3G's. I even heard recently through the grapevine that, since the 4g64 GS 3G is possible to be converted to AWD (BlueBombShell), the GT guys were giving it a try as well with a hoard of various parts.
All very interesting builds going on right now.
I always love to see ridiculous 6G7x builds. Some guy in Maryland is apparently making these motors for 3G's. I even heard recently through the grapevine that, since the 4g64 GS 3G is possible to be converted to AWD (BlueBombShell), the GT guys were giving it a try as well with a hoard of various parts.
All very interesting builds going on right now.
OT: These threads need to jus die. It'll happen when Mitsu decides to do it. There is your answer.
May 3, 2010 | 01:28 PM
#30
Edit: My point was that hoping for the transmission out of the GSR as a manual option in the future doesn't seem likely. It was more of a no-brainer to merely just build one TC-SST transmission and put it in the both the MR and the RA. That didn't happen, and it looks like the reason was gas mileage. Well, given Mitsubishi's track record with manual transmissions and their quest for better fuel economy, I was presenting the, albeit only merely possible, option of them hacking up the GSR's transmission or that of the regular GTS Lancer, and separating the last gear into two to help out the mileage. I then went on to present a case in which the very same company has ALREADY done the exact same thing.
Last edited by NFSLancerRA; May 3, 2010 at 01:38 PM.