Well, my reasoning behind it is that the reg lancer is more than enough for being your daily driver. You don't need a 237 hp turbo charged awd car to get from point A to point B. Also, the step up from the RA to the evo is small enough to warrant the purchase IMO. That's why I think we see alot of RA owners looking to trade up or already swapping for the evo. Just my 2 cents.

 

well your 2 cents are used up. The ralliart is a perfect middle man. Why the heck has the wrx sold so well, because it bridges the base impreza and the sti durrrr.

The car is a perfect substitution for those who cant afford the extra 6k for the evo, cant afford the evo insurance, need an awd car for the winter, those who dont like the high maintnance costs of an evo and so on. If your regretting a purchase you made, thats your fault and not the cars. Its the same it was when you signed the papers.

maybe a little research will educate you more on the car

 

I found the GTS to be gutless on the test drive and would not buy a Lancer if the RA did not exist.

Or at the very least i would void the warranty and put a turbo on it.

 

heres my input on that.

buying a new ralliart would be a bad decision, buying a used ralliart is a totally different story.

the sad thing is, ralliart is not an evo and the used car market value shows it...

yes evos are depreciating poorly too but for the most part they hold their value , much better than ralliarts or lancers.

ralliart's are depreciating to the point where buying a newlancer over a slightly used ralliart would only be about 1000-2000 difference depending on the situation.

I know alot of people who got ralliarts for good prices...23k otd, 22k otd then i know the majority who paid 24k+++

well the thing is even an 09 ralliart with <10k miles isnt going to fetch more than 18.5k... i know this because there were 2 evom members who tried selling a Black ralliart and a RR ralliart....both were either sent to carmax or taken to the dealer...


heres an examplehttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsu...item4aa187d3f7



car has been for sale for over 2 weeks...

 

I upgraded from my 2008 GTS to my 2009 RA and couldn't be happier. Granted, if I had money for the Evo I would have traded up to the Evo but since I didn't, the RA was the next best thing IMHO.

Different strokes for different folks.

Now would I buy a brand new RA now knowing how badly the RA depreciates, probably not. But on the other hand, nothing is better than being able to drive a brand new car off a dealership lot.

 

the wrx also comes with more HP, better fuel economy 18/25 and a 5spd manual transmission...


to prove my point even more


https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...0-miles-3.html

this was back in 2009 (1 year ago ) with <6k miles he couldnt get 21k for his ralliart...

 

better fuel economy, and more hp (no, the 265 does but thats yet another model up, the wrx impreze is still in the 230s) can be solved with 400$ and a couple minutes of your time.

The 5 spd isnt a bonus or something to argue about. We bought the ralliart because we liked the tranny. Not because we didnt have a choice.

I hate when kids try to compare the 265 to the ralliart. The ralliart was marketed against the wrx, not the 265. The 265 has the sti turbo, i have the evo x turbo. Crank horse power wise im making 375+. you do the math son.

 

also the subaru that is rated for 224 hp is not a wrx but is a impreza 2.5GT get it right son its not a wrx.... freaking noob.

a reference to a 2010 2.5GT
http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/impreza/25gt/index.html

sorry but i dont see wrx anywhere for that 2.5GT



"We bought the ralliart because we liked the tranny. Not because we didnt have a choice."

lol yeah...people bought the ralliart because they couldnt get the evo , then as numerous ra owners found out the tranny kinda sucked so they traded up and got the evo.

and im glad you have an evo x turbo and making 375 crank...i thought we were originally talking about the pros/cons to buying the car...not what happens when we start to drop $ into it... cuz then we can go on and on about buying a used evo for 24k and putting 1500-2000 into it (most likely will already come used with 5k+ in mods like most evos do) and having a monster of a car...


like someone said everyone has their tastes. we can end it there.

 

the 2.5 gt prior to 2008 was called an impreza you thick skulled nerd. The ralliart design began in 2007 when the impreza and its 230 hp was still on the market. Get the drift?

The transmission was on the car when people drove it. If they have since decided they dont like it, again, that is there problem. Keep in mind those who spend the most on a lancer (the MR) also get the transmission and seem to enjoy it. Mechanically the transmission is a great design. People simply dont learn about the car and only look at a flaw and not how simple it is to fix.

I live in canada, and an evo used isnt 24 k here. New a base gsr is 42k. Used your looking at 34-36k. I paid 32 for my ralliart, with recaro seats and hids etc etc. The reason i didnt get an evo was because my fiancee cant drive stick, and the MR is 52k in canada. The 4-5 k ive spend on my car has me still lower then the 42k a gsr, while running a fully bolted stage 2 gsr number to the wheels.

At anyrate, you will forever think a faster more expensive car like the 265 is better from the factory, being that its 3k more in canada it should be. Again, 400$ and 10 minutes of time changes that issue very quickly. Not to mention, the seats are inferior, as is the steering wheel and components in it, making its cockpit alot less desirable.


Lastly, you drive a gts... like serious, with recaro seats from an evo, and a hood from an evo. Who are you trying to kid here? I sure hope that escort 8500 keeps you and your 145 whp from getting alot of speeding tickets while your out pretending to be an evo.

 

Some people need auto and trunk space... Evo MR is about 12K more than the ralliart.. Also evo doesn't have the trunk space that I need. Everyone has their own taste and needs

 

First off that sucks that you have to pay those prices for a ralliart.

2nd reason i have a gts and not an evo isnt because the 10k price difference was too much but simply because theres just no need having a 30K car at my age. i was 21 when I bought my gts, 5 months later I bought a 2007 scion tc for my fiance, I already had the 2008 es which my brother has and now at 23 I bought a house.

sure i could be living in an apartment and driving my evo but thats not what i wanted, i drive 8 miles to and from work everyday in heavy traffic so all i would be doing in an evo is wasting gas...

so not buying that 30k enabled me to have 3 cars (now 2) and a house and pay my student loans , the mortage , bills, car insurances, etc etc... , and im not upside down like crazy on my car like you are. I owe 13k and thats something I can easily get for if i wanted to sell my gts.

about the recaro seats, i got t hem for 1k shipped to my door how could i not resist that ??? plus i had taken numerous road trips in my gts prior to buying the seats and my back was KILLING ME. have had 0 back problems since getting the recaros.

the hood, cost me 300 total including transit, my projectors cost me 250 including bulb ballasts and housing...

and im not pretending to be an evo u dont see me trying to 3m tape fender vents or get the accolade evo x wide body kit...


also anyone can DRIVE fast you dont need a 300HP car to cruise down the highway at 90mph, it just might take a little longer to get there

 

Canadian car prices are alot higher across the board. Our average income is alot higher was well, which has alot to do with it.

Are you trying to make som remark on how ralliart owners may be forfeiting other stuff like a house to afford the car? Im not sure how you meant that. For the record, my car is paid in full, and i own a house which are also alot mroe expensive in canada (3 bedroom homes average 400k where i live), 2 cars, and have a child without money issues.

And yeah, it will take you alot longer to get up to 90mph

 

no i was making a remark that i forfeited the chance to have an evo so that i can have other stuff and still be able to afford the different recreational activities i enjoy.

i put the hood for looks and the seats for comfort and now i have a car that i am 100% comfortable with.

its kind of hard to have our discussion since your in canada and up there its obviously better to have an RA spend a couple hundred dollars and have a car as fast as a base gsr...

i guess it comes down to everyones individual situations.

also ******* 3 bedroom home for 400k...lol in san antonio , tx 400k would buy you a HUGE house...lol my parents house was roughly 275k and they have a huge house pool , 5 bed rooms 4 bath.

 

my point exactly. my house was listed for 449 when we bought it for 400k. Its a 3 bedroom 2 1/2 bath and a detached garage. This same house in a newer area would be 600k +

 

The Ralliart was to compete with 2008 version of the WRX Impreza, yes.

Then after announcing the specs of the newly unveiled Ralliart, Subaru released its 2009 figures at 265 horsepower.

So, the 2009 Subaru WRX Impreza is competing with the 2009 Mistsubishi Ralliart, its just that Mistsubishi was relying on Subaru to keep it's 2008 figures. And while the WRX is adopting more from its bigger brother, the Ralliart is still taking it's cues from the GTS.


The main reason for poor sales figures for both the MR and the Ralliart is the TC-SST putting both cars well above its price segment, especially the Ralliart. The MR suffers mainly due to horsepower and torque limitations added only by its transmission. You can go on all day about beefing up the tranny, but it will cost them more to match hp & tq than it would if they would have just went for the 5speed.

Just simply buy a used IX or VIII, you will get more for your money and actually have an Evo. The '09-'10 TC-SST is still in it's infant stages, and overall reliability is still question.