Question about Torque and HP gain: Wheel Weight versus Sprung Weight
Nov 9, 2009, 02:11 PM
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Aye, need to test set-for-set.
For the time being I am looking for wheel on cost versus weight that will work with my somewhat aggressive DD style.
I was looking at these 18x8: http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Brand
For the cost and weight, and the OZ racing brand, that's not too bad. Any comments on the quality of these?
For the time being I am looking for wheel on cost versus weight that will work with my somewhat aggressive DD style.
I was looking at these 18x8: http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Brand
For the cost and weight, and the OZ racing brand, that's not too bad. Any comments on the quality of these?
IMO it's a badass look, lightweight, pricey, and very good wheels. mines look brand new and they don't get scratched easily
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Nov 10, 2009, 10:28 AM
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Agreed. Making power, alone, is definitely less expensive. To add another benefit of reduced rotational mass, the car's overall performance is improved while making life easier for its drivetrain. It's the difference between making power and freeing-up power. I hope that makes sense.
As far as people, let's say I cloned a human... no, make it several humans, and I trained them to be cross country runners in my Biosphere of Olympia. My cloned cross country runners will do worse in boots than in a pair of great running shoes.
I wondered how well this analogy faired for vehicles.
Nov 10, 2009, 11:20 AM
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Maybe a better analogy would be two cross country runners with football cleats: One is trying to run cross country. The other is trying to play inside linebacker. 
Nov 10, 2009, 05:51 PM
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I went from stock rims/tires to Enkei 17x8 RPF1 with 235 wide ContiExtremeContact DWS. Although completely unscientific, I felt a difference overall in how the car performs. 11 pounds less per wheel, but some of the benefit could be due to the wider tire too.
Nov 11, 2009, 11:18 AM
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My whip is wearing those right now, Anthracite painted;
IMO it's a badass look, lightweight, pricey, and very good wheels. mines look brand new and they don't get scratched easily
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IMO it's a badass look, lightweight, pricey, and very good wheels. mines look brand new and they don't get scratched easily
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Nov 11, 2009, 02:38 PM
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Nov 11, 2009, 11:16 PM
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Stock lugs will not fit aftermarket wheels, due to different tapers on the lugs.
Stock = ball taper.
Aftermarket = conical/tuner taper.
If you use stock lugs it will not fit correctly and there is a risk of it falling off once the wheel is subjected to stresses on the road.
Stock = ball taper.
Aftermarket = conical/tuner taper.
If you use stock lugs it will not fit correctly and there is a risk of it falling off once the wheel is subjected to stresses on the road.
Nov 12, 2009, 10:24 AM
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My friend and I are debating which looks better on my RG Ralliart. Originally, I was stuck on a silver looking wheel but I think the anthracite is shinny enough to look good. He likes the black and is lobbying for it but its too dark and matte in my opinion.
With the weight/cost of those wheels I can deal with a non-silver rim.
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With the weight/cost of those wheels I can deal with a non-silver rim.
Pics of ma Car: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/09...-thread-2.html
Dec 30, 2009, 09:19 PM
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Unsprung Weight
Hello all,
I don't post much if at all on this forum but this subject is of great interest to me. I own several Subarus and a RAV4 Sport. This may seem totally off topic but I'll get to my main point. I have modified my intake and exhaust on my 2010 RAV4 and have ran a best of 14.404@95mph and have dyno'd the before and after of each modification.
Today, I just changed my wheel/tire combination from my stock 18" aluminum alloy wheel/tire to an aftermarket set I picked up. The reduction in total weight of each wheel is 27lbs. I have a dyno appointment setup next Friday (1/8/09) to see the before and after results. Since the question wasn't answered here, maybe the results of my 'experiment' can enlighten some a little. Here is a link to my experiment--> http://rav4world.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23707 & http://rav4world.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24197
BTW: I have been reading and trying to find one dyno chart of before and after results and can't find squat over the internet. I'd like to do same day testing but that is extra $$$ I don't want to cough up. I'm going to continue to look but figured I'd chime in on this one.
Also...you guys have badass cars so that is why I'm a member here. You never know who's watching.
I don't post much if at all on this forum but this subject is of great interest to me. I own several Subarus and a RAV4 Sport. This may seem totally off topic but I'll get to my main point. I have modified my intake and exhaust on my 2010 RAV4 and have ran a best of 14.404@95mph and have dyno'd the before and after of each modification.
Today, I just changed my wheel/tire combination from my stock 18" aluminum alloy wheel/tire to an aftermarket set I picked up. The reduction in total weight of each wheel is 27lbs. I have a dyno appointment setup next Friday (1/8/09) to see the before and after results. Since the question wasn't answered here, maybe the results of my 'experiment' can enlighten some a little. Here is a link to my experiment--> http://rav4world.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23707 & http://rav4world.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24197
BTW: I have been reading and trying to find one dyno chart of before and after results and can't find squat over the internet. I'd like to do same day testing but that is extra $$$ I don't want to cough up. I'm going to continue to look but figured I'd chime in on this one.
Also...you guys have badass cars so that is why I'm a member here. You never know who's watching.
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Dec 31, 2009, 08:17 AM
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Today, I just changed my wheel/tire combination from my stock 18" aluminum alloy wheel/tire to an aftermarket set I picked up. The reduction in total weight of each wheel is 27lbs. I have a dyno appointment setup next Friday (1/8/09) to see the before and after results. Since the question wasn't answered here, maybe the results of my 'experiment' can enlighten some a little. Here is a link to my experiment--> http://rav4world.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23707 & [URL="http://rav4world.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24197"]http://rav4world.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24197[/URL