2009 Lancer Ralliart - GST Basemap
Dec 5, 2011, 03:13 PM
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Thanks alot kenny I do about 150 miles a week or more so i could help out with the daily drivabliity and also is the car stil reliable as this is my dd and ik you guys r testing alot but mpgs up too?
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Dec 5, 2011, 05:16 PM
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Doesn't appear so. File name of the ROM that i received is "2010_RA_USDM_GST_BaseMap_BoostPill_91oct_V27.006. hex"
Then again, in the email that I sent I requested the boost pill basemap and not the TBE base map. I thought that since i have a stock Cat in the car, my exhaust doesn't really qualify as a "TBE".
Then again, in the email that I sent I requested the boost pill basemap and not the TBE base map. I thought that since i have a stock Cat in the car, my exhaust doesn't really qualify as a "TBE".
Dec 5, 2011, 07:25 PM
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nunyas, that log with Boost Error and WGDC Correction looks great! 
It looks like the USDM v27 testing has now progressed from the "sanity check" stage to the "fine-tuning" stage. To make this stage as painless and productive as possible, can all you helpful USDM beta testers please do the following:
1. Remove the sanity-check testing variables from your logging, namely: RPM Tracking, BWGDC_Adjust, RPM_Delta. This will improve logging speed from now on.
2. Review the following thread, and see if you can configure logging of Boost Error...
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/09...st-levels.html
3. In that same thread, you'll find instructions on how to log your Boost relative to your Baro... either by double-checking the "fixed" Baro value is about right, or by actually including logged Baro reading in the Boost scaling formula.
With all that done, Bryan will be able to see exactly where your true gauge-pressure boost is... and where your gauge-pressure boost target is.
And your logs will have better resolution without the sanity-check items.
Trust me, it'll be worth the effort.
Rich
PS. AlphaKennyBody, that's some seriously positive feedback!
It looks like the USDM v27 testing has now progressed from the "sanity check" stage to the "fine-tuning" stage. To make this stage as painless and productive as possible, can all you helpful USDM beta testers please do the following:
1. Remove the sanity-check testing variables from your logging, namely: RPM Tracking, BWGDC_Adjust, RPM_Delta. This will improve logging speed from now on.
2. Review the following thread, and see if you can configure logging of Boost Error...
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/09...st-levels.html
3. In that same thread, you'll find instructions on how to log your Boost relative to your Baro... either by double-checking the "fixed" Baro value is about right, or by actually including logged Baro reading in the Boost scaling formula.
With all that done, Bryan will be able to see exactly where your true gauge-pressure boost is... and where your gauge-pressure boost target is.
And your logs will have better resolution without the sanity-check items.
Trust me, it'll be worth the effort.
Rich
PS. AlphaKennyBody, that's some seriously positive feedback!
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Dec 6, 2011, 04:26 AM
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Two more logs attached - getting them small enough is a nightmare.
Couple of points of feedback, both related to Normal-Auto mode (because I spend a lot of time in traffic...)
1. It now tries to rev match the downshifts like sport mode does, but does it badly. 2nd to 1st sometimes happens as you try and bring the car to a stop and the car lurches forward a little. 3rd to 2nd was not much better - happening too late.
2. At half throttle, normal-auto shifts are good. At 2/3 to full throttle, the 2-3 shift takes a long time and then it immediately tries to shift to 4th. It's that rev-hang feeling that has been present in the GST tune for a long time, at least on my car.
Otherwise, it is smooth and still pretty quick. Beat an SS V8 off the lights today no problem (400HP 6.2L V8 Chev Gen III thing for those in the US).
Couple of points of feedback, both related to Normal-Auto mode (because I spend a lot of time in traffic...)
1. It now tries to rev match the downshifts like sport mode does, but does it badly. 2nd to 1st sometimes happens as you try and bring the car to a stop and the car lurches forward a little. 3rd to 2nd was not much better - happening too late.
2. At half throttle, normal-auto shifts are good. At 2/3 to full throttle, the 2-3 shift takes a long time and then it immediately tries to shift to 4th. It's that rev-hang feeling that has been present in the GST tune for a long time, at least on my car.
Otherwise, it is smooth and still pretty quick. Beat an SS V8 off the lights today no problem (400HP 6.2L V8 Chev Gen III thing for those in the US).
Dec 6, 2011, 05:07 AM
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Two more logs attached - getting them small enough is a nightmare.
Couple of points of feedback, both related to Normal-Auto mode (because I spend a lot of time in traffic...)
1. It now tries to rev match the downshifts like sport mode does, but does it badly. 2nd to 1st sometimes happens as you try and bring the car to a stop and the car lurches forward a little. 3rd to 2nd was not much better - happening too late.
Couple of points of feedback, both related to Normal-Auto mode (because I spend a lot of time in traffic...)
1. It now tries to rev match the downshifts like sport mode does, but does it badly. 2nd to 1st sometimes happens as you try and bring the car to a stop and the car lurches forward a little. 3rd to 2nd was not much better - happening too late.
When it's in NORMAL/MANUAL it never, ever does that. Clutches stay disengaged throughout.
Interesting. We share the same ROM ID, and we've both noticed this... so perhaps we can try some extra tests. I'll pm you.
If anyone else testing v27 has driven in auto mode (sound of crickets, tumbleweeds roll by............), let us know if you've experienced this too.
The SST auto-style shift points for NORMAL mode look like this:
Those are likely to be embedded inside the transmission control unit, not the ECU... so they are totally unchanged from factory.
The Boost Pill map makes a lot more torque in the 3000-5000rpm range. It's pretty spritely at 2/3 throttle! So it's quite possible the combination of slow shift (in NORMAL mode), higher torque and unchanged shift patterns make for some ref "flare" at some upshifts, just as you described.
Rich
Dec 6, 2011, 04:18 PM
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EvoScanDataLog_2011.12.06_16.01.41gear1-5wot.zip
EvoScanDataLog_2011.12.06_15.58.17gear4wot.zip
EvoScanDataLog_2011.12.06_15.56.21gear3wot.zip
EvoScanDataLog_2011.12.06_15.34.27gear2 wot.zip
I have done some runs with the 2009 USDM with Upgraded Pill 91 Oct. The shifts felt way smoother than 2.5. I didnt have any of the optional log addresses on as i just figured out how to add them to evo scan. Also I am 350-400m above sea level it was -3C and baro 96 Kpa.
Keep up the awsome work, if there is any specific run/test you would like just pm me.
EvoScanDataLog_2011.12.06_15.58.17gear4wot.zip
EvoScanDataLog_2011.12.06_15.56.21gear3wot.zip
EvoScanDataLog_2011.12.06_15.34.27gear2 wot.zip
I have done some runs with the 2009 USDM with Upgraded Pill 91 Oct. The shifts felt way smoother than 2.5. I didnt have any of the optional log addresses on as i just figured out how to add them to evo scan. Also I am 350-400m above sea level it was -3C and baro 96 Kpa.
Keep up the awsome work, if there is any specific run/test you would like just pm me.
Dec 6, 2011, 06:02 PM
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jeebus!! -3C?!?!?
*dies*
Back on topic. I've also noticed the "rev hang" between 2 and 3 ... however, i must note that it's not nearly as bad as it was in the past for me.
*dies*
Back on topic. I've also noticed the "rev hang" between 2 and 3 ... however, i must note that it's not nearly as bad as it was in the past for me.