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Old Dec 9, 2011, 04:57 PM
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just loaded 2.7 93 oct no pill and seems that i have alil compresser surge or wastegate chatter but other than that and the same 2nd - 3rd hang everything seems great but just wonder if anyone else seen that problem?
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Can you please collect data logs, and send them to Bryan (along with notes of what you felt/heard, and when it occurred in the logs).

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ya cant figure out how to get evoscan tolog the 2011 we cant get the varibiles to work
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Is that with the USDM BoostPill + TBE + AEM intake 93oct BaseMap I sent you?
Sure is.
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Originally Posted by Rog96
ya cant figure out how to get evoscan tolog the 2011 we cant get the varibiles to work

Try putting these into your Mitsubishi EvoX Mode23 USA.xml. Then select Mode23 2011 USA RA EVOX from the dropdown in EvoScan.

Code:
    <ecu name="Mode23 2011 USA RA EVOX">
      <Mode2 name="Mode2" type="Data List Items">
        <DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="2-Byte RPM" LogReference="2ByteRPM" RequestID="23808780" Eval="3.90625*x" Unit="rpm" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="8000" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="8000" ScalingFactor=".1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="Load" LogReference="Load" RequestID="238087A8" Eval="x*10/32" Unit="load" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="300" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="30" ScalingFactor=".1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="TimingAdv" LogReference="TimingAdv" RequestID="23808A43" Eval="x-20" Unit="deg" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="-10" GaugeMax="50" ChartMin="-10" ChartMax="50" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="Barometer" LogReference="Baro" RequestID="2380AAE1" Eval="x*0.07251887" Unit="psi" MetricEval="x/2" MetricUnit="kPa" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="50" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="#4b0000" Display="Boost" LogReference="PSIG" RequestID="23808752" Eval="(x/4*0.1953125)-[Baro]" Unit="PSIG" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="-15" GaugeMax="35" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="Boost Target" LogReference="BoostTarget" RequestID="23808b5b" Eval="x*0.19347" Unit="PSIG" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="Knock Sum" LogReference="KnockSum" RequestID="23808A87" Eval="x" Unit="count" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="20" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="20" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="Accel Pedal Position" LogReference="APP" RequestID="23809625" Eval="(x-32)*129/255" Unit="%" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="TPS" LogReference="TPS" RequestID="23808731" Eval="x*100/255" Unit="%" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="100" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="100" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="BWGDC IAT Adjust" LogReference="BWGDC_Adjust" RequestID="23805080" Eval="(x-128)/2" Unit="percent" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="Upshift RPM Tracking" LogReference="RPM_Tracking" RequestID="23805082" Eval="x*31.25" Unit="rpm" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="RPM Delta Direction" LogReference="RPM_Delta" RequestID="23805084" Eval="x" Unit="value" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="Atmos Boost Base" LogReference="AtmosBoostBase" RequestID="238051a0" Eval="x*0.19347" Unit="psi" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="Active WGDC" LogReference="WGDC_Active" RequestID="23808B91" Eval="x/2" Unit="%" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="100" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="IPW" LogReference="IPW" RequestID="2380AB1C" Eval="x/1000" Unit="ms" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="Manifold Air Temp" LogReference="MAT" RequestID="23808695" Eval="1.8*x-40" Unit="Deg F" MetricEval="x-40" MetricUnit="Deg C" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="-10" GaugeMax="200" ChartMin="-10" ChartMax="200" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="Engine Coolant Temperature" Priority="3" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="Coolant Temp" LogReference="ECT" RequestID="23808673" Eval="1.8*x-40" Unit="Deg F" MetricEval="x-40" MetricUnit="Deg C" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="-10" GaugeMax="130" ChartMin="-10" ChartMax="130" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="Engine Coolant Temperature" Priority="3" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="Intake Air Temp" LogReference="IAT" RequestID="2380868F" Eval="1.8*x-40" Unit="Deg F" MetricEval="x-40" MetricUnit="Deg C" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="-10" GaugeMax="130" ChartMin="-10" ChartMax="130" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="Intake Air Temperature" Priority="3" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="Speed" LogReference="Speed" RequestID="23808823" Eval="x*1.243" Unit="mph" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="250" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="260" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="STFT" LogReference="STFT" RequestID="238088D4" Eval="(0.1953125*x)-25" Unit="%" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="LTFT idle" LogReference="IdleLTFT" RequestID="23804573" Eval="(0.1953125*x)-25" Unit="%" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="LTFT Cruise" LogReference="CruiseLTFT" RequestID="23804575" Eval="(0.1953125*x)-25" Unit="%" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="LTFT In Use" LogReference="CurrentLTFT" RequestID="238088E5" Eval="(0.1953125*x)-25" Unit="%" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="Front Oxygen Sensor" LogReference="FrontO2" RequestID="238086A1" Eval="0.01952*x" Unit="V" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="Rear O2" LogReference="O2Sensor2" RequestID="238086A5" Eval="0.01952*x" Unit="V" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="Battery Level" LogReference="Battery" RequestID="23808727" Eval="0.07333*x" Unit="V" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="3" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="InVVT (target)" LogReference="InVVTtarget" RequestID="23809546" Eval="(x-4096)*-0.01953125" Unit="Deg" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="-40" GaugeMax="50" ChartMin="-40" ChartMax="50" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="ExVVT (target)" LogReference="ExVVTtarget" RequestID="23809552" Eval="(x-4096)*-0.01953125" Unit="Deg" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="-40" GaugeMax="50" ChartMin="-40" ChartMax="50" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="InVVT (actual)" LogReference="InVVTactual" RequestID="2380957E" Eval="(x-4096)*-0.01953125" Unit="Deg" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="-40" GaugeMax="50" ChartMin="-40" ChartMax="50" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="ExVVT (actual)" LogReference="ExVVTactual" RequestID="2380958A" Eval="(x-4096)*-0.01953125" Unit="Deg" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="-40" GaugeMax="50" ChartMin="-40" ChartMax="50" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="MAF Volts" LogReference="MAF" RequestID="23808FA4" Eval="x/1024*5" Unit="V" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="MAF Airflow" LogReference="MAFgs" RequestID="23808FA4" Eval="x*0.02" Unit="gs" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="#90ff00" Display="External Wideband A/F Ratio" LogReference="WideBandAF" RequestID="WDB" Eval="x" Unit="a/f ratio" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="20" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="20" ScalingFactor="10" Notes="Plug in your serial port from your wideband oxygen sensor if you have one." Priority="1" Visible="False" />
        <DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="WGDC Correction" LogReference="WGDCC" RequestID="23808b51" Eval="(x-128)/2" Unit="percent" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
      </Mode2>
    </ecu>
Old Dec 9, 2011, 05:39 PM
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we dont have the 2011 USA RA EVOX option we got the 2010 but not the 2011
Old Dec 9, 2011, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rog96
we dont have the 2011 USA RA EVOX option we got the 2010 but not the 2011

Did you close evoscan, put those lines in the end of the file before

Code:
  </vehicle>
</EvoScanDataLogger>
and then relaunch EvoScan? In the select ECU you'll see "Mode23 2011 USA RA".
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Originally Posted by EyeDreamt
Did you close evoscan, put those lines in the end of the file before

Code:
  </vehicle>
</EvoScanDataLogger>
and then relaunch EvoScan? In the select ECU you'll see "Mode23 2011 USA RA".

^Yeah, we got it. It seems like the turbo is surging or wastegate chatter or something. Not really sure. Can I post the log here somehow? Maybe you guys can help more than I can, I'm a newb still with Evoscan haha.
Old Dec 9, 2011, 06:33 PM
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^ I think your experiencing the car releasing pressure by the Wastegate.... I've yet ran into Surge or else you'd hear it BAD.
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Nevermind figured out how to load the data as a graph. This wasn't a pull, it was with consistent throttle input. The section where the WGDC drops was where the chatter/surge/whatever it was happened. (not the end of the graph, just before the shift from first to second occurred)
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Great, you're off and running with logs.

Now add in all the special logging values from the "beta test" PDF instructions Bryan sent out with the ROM.

You can upload .csv zipped, as long as they aren't too big...

Rich

PS. WGDC is just the solenoid duty cycle... doesn't directly tell you a thing about what's going on at the wastegate itself. Or have I misunderstood? Anyway, logs will be good to see!
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Attached are my runs with the v2.7 basemap. I've tested using first the stock pill and then the boost pill. When I imported the files in Virtual Dyno, the graph doesn't appear quite right as the numbers are higher than expected and the curve appears somewhat off. Any insight as to what I'm doing incorrectly is appreciated. I'd welcome any suggestions on how i can improve my logging.
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Hi Bar-One-Bar-John.

(A "Strong Bad" accent works best for that, hehe)

Yep, to import useful data into VD, you need to perform a single in-gear pull,

eg. Go WOT at 2000rpm in 3rd gear, and hold WOT until just below redline.

Use SPORT MANUAL mode.

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LOL homestarrunner. I'll take a look at the pdf then, I think Zack emailed it to me.
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Logs of the 2011 AEM + TBE 93 Octane Boostpill Map: Temp was around 34 according to my digital display.

AEM+TBE 2.7 - 1st to 3rd WOT Sport Manual (1-2 delayed shift).csv
AEM+TBE 2.7 - 1st to 3rd WOT Sport Manual (1-2 slight hang).csv
AEM+TBE 2.7 - 1st to 4th WOT Sport Manual (1-2 hang).csv
AEM+TBE 2.7 - 1st to _ WOT Normal Auto (1-2 Rev Bounce).csv
AEM+TBE 2.7 - 2nd to 3rd WOT Sport Manual.csv
AEM+TBE 2.7 - 2nd to 4th WOT Normal Manual.csv
AEM+TBE 2.7 - 2nd to 4th WOT Sport Manual.csv
AEM+TBE 2.7 - 3rd Pull 2k to 7k Sport Manual.csv
AEM+TBE 2.7 - Driving Around Normal Auto.csv
AEM+TBE 2.7 - Driving Around Sport Manual (Cop Following).csv

I haven't gotten a chance to review these myself, so there could be some crazy crap in em. Let me know if there is anything special you'd like logged or reproduced, any special parameters, etc. I can logs clutch parameters as well if needed (slip, pressure, etc).


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