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Old Jan 17, 2014, 06:31 PM
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I got mine from Modern Automotive Performance www.maperformance.com. They were happy to ship internationally.
There were also a couple on the US ebay site but with shipping they were getting a little expensive.
Old Jan 17, 2014, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GingerBear

I've attached the recall notice for tencents and anyone else who wants to see what it's for. It says U.S., but this will probably end up being a worldwide thing for all SST owners.
So I went and define all the known tables and did a compare between 56940013 and 56940014 ROMs. It appears Mitsubishi has increased the SST Torque Limit #1-#4 tables for the newer ROM which is in line with what the TSB says.


Old Jan 18, 2014, 05:18 AM
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Anyone with 2013+ RA get wide band yet for data logging so Rich can confirm and release the new maps?
Old Jan 21, 2014, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ExRotary
I got mine from Modern Automotive Performance www.maperformance.com. They were happy to ship internationally.
There were also a couple on the US ebay site but with shipping they were getting a little expensive.
Thanks, it it now on the way to sweden


Another question:
I have read that in the new version of ecuflash you can not clear the dtc, in wich older version of ecuflash can you? I'll will load the GST basemap as soon as i get my taxtric cable.
Old Jan 21, 2014, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Wille
I have read that in the new version of ecuflash you can not clear the dtc, in wich older version of ecuflash can you?
Which version specifically of ecuflash has this DTC clearing issue?

Thanks for bringing it up
Old Jan 21, 2014, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by richardjh
I'm using 1.43.3150, and it clears DTCs just fine.

I don't want to "upgrade" to the version of EcuFlash that no longer offers "Clear DTCs". It seems like a big step backwards!


If I remember correctly, the reason the engine light comes on after flashing is that the ECU is seen as going AWOL while the operation is in progress. Comms timeout, or some such thing. It's a two-step operation - flash, clear.

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I found an old post, version 1.43.3150 seems to clear dtc
http://www.evoscan.com/free-ecu-rom-downloads - here can you find it i bit down on the site.

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Old Jan 22, 2014, 06:09 AM
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I must be lucky or something, as I have been using v1.44.3721 (which I believe is the most current version) and have never had an issue clearing DTC.
Old Jan 23, 2014, 03:05 AM
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^. I am not quite sure what richardjh was getting at. He seemed to be saying that the latest version of ECU Flash had lost the Clear DTC function. I have v1.44.3721 and can confirm that it does have a Clear DTC function and it does work .... mostly.

EvoScan also has a clear DTC function although some on this forum are saying that its clear DTC function gone a bit buggy with version 2.9.

The Engine Warning light can be a persistent bugger.

I reflashed with 2009 RA_AUS_EDM_BaseMap_BoostPILL V31.003 about a week ago. EvoScan 2.9 wasn't able to find and display any codes after the first DTC clear. After numerous DTC clear attempts with both EvoScan and EcuFlash the warning light finally disappeared.

It re-appeared today about 10 minutes into my commute. Once again EvoScan failed to read and display any codes and neither EvoScan or EcuFlash was doing any good clearing the light. I finally cleared it with ECUFlash while the motor was running. Hopefully it won't come back.

I am going to load older versions of both EvoScan and EcuFlash for back-up in case it re-appears
Old Jan 23, 2014, 03:28 AM
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Well, glad to hear EcuFlash can do this again. Me, I'm in full Luddite mode - using WinXP and EcuFlash 1.43.3150 on my trusty Asus Netbook... Not even one that transforms into a tablet (or a giant robot).

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I just got the P050B code this morning on my 2009 RA with the v3.0 boostpill map. Temp outside was ~43F. Was there a patch or fix for this that I am not finding in my searches?
Old Jan 24, 2014, 06:25 PM
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Try v31.003 instead. Download link at top of first post.

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Old Jan 25, 2014, 04:01 AM
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Is the GST base tune too aggressive for hot weather?

We have recently been through a heatwave here with a couple of days over 40 deg C (105 F). I ran a couple of WOT runs one evening when the temperature had dropped to about 35 C running the 2010 AUS/EDM - 98 ron - BoostPill - V31.003 and was concerned about the knocksums as high as 15. I backgraded to 2009 AUS/EDM - 98 ron - BoostPill - V31.003 and tried a few runs a couple of days later, once again in ambient temperatures of about 35 C for similar results. CSVs of a couple of typical runs are attached.

A couple of days later, with the same tank of fuel in 22 C ambient temperatures knock levels were back to “normal”.

For the 3rd gear pulls I dispense with mechanical sympathy and run to the fuel cutout, after all this can sometimes happen in the real world when manually shifting. We really don’t run into problems until past the 6500 rpm redline. You can see the timing retarding in response to knock but frankly I expected it to be more aggressive in retarding in order to protect the motor, especially when repeated occurrences keep pushing knocksum up higher. If you look carefully at the plot below you can see advance being increased when the knock sum decreases from 8 to 7 and again when it falls to 6 only for another knock instance to occur.

According to Virtual Dyno this tune gives useful horsepower out to the fuel cutout at 7396 rpm. Perhaps razorlab might want to jump in here and tell us whether he ran past 6500 rpm in his tuning.

The standing start runs were performed in automatic SST Sport mode. As the shift point is 6,500 in 3rd we avoided any knock there but 4th and 5th were a different story with knock across the range. I notice that the boost level is higher and the boost curve fatter in these gears as well. Could this be something to do with the boost control RPM/MPH crossover?

I’m a total rookie here but I think that I am looking at two separate issues:
• The 6,500 to 7,500 maps
• Boost or timing control in gears 4,5&6

I don't see any manifold air temp dependent tables to bring things down a notch or two in hot weather. Any suggestions out there?







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Old Jan 25, 2014, 02:25 PM
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I just noticed there isn't a 93OCT-Boost Pill-AEM map I'm stock except for a K&N drop in and AMS Boost Pill. I have that map flashed and it's great. I was wanting to order an AEM intake but don't have the exhaust done yet. Can I install the AEM intake and keep running the map I am currently? Thanks
Old Jan 25, 2014, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ExRotary
Is the GST base tune too aggressive for hot weather?
Remember, it's a basemap. If you are finding knock at high RPM because of heatsoak in 95-105F (35-40c) weather then take a couple degrees out at that RPM range, and/or take some boost out.

The stock RA fmic can barely cool the the OEM tune at those temps. Here is a post of mine from way back for reference: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/8375796-post169.html

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Old Jan 25, 2014, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Remember, it's a basemap.
I'm not complaining, these basemaps work brilliantly as downloaded. In fact they probably work too well. I was getting sucked into flash and forget mode.

Originally Posted by razorlab
The stock RA fmic can barely cool the the OEM tune at those temps.
Yeah the temperatures are running away - see below. Just as well I didn't try this in the heat of the day, another 6 or 7 degrees at the inlet would have pushed the MAT well over 70 C (160 F).

I still want to bring this thing back to stock for dealer servicing and warranty preservation. Swapping intercoolers before and after services is looking like a bit too much of a chore.

Maybe I could flash a summer and winter tune. Or I could just keep off the accelerator when the temperature creeps up.



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