TC-SST Failure. Imporant!
Mar 3, 2010, 11:36 AM
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Toyota is an entirely different story... they definitely cut corners cuz none of those cars that failed were raced/abused/modified.
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Mar 3, 2010, 11:57 AM
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Yeah, most of us here know the tranny came from Getrag... I don't usually get into details when posting though :-) Regardless, if Mitsu orders a stouter SST, no doubt it will cost them a ton more, thereby bumping up the RA's (and X MR's) price to a whole new level... which doesn't go well with their "bang-for-the-buck" selling point.
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Mar 3, 2010, 11:59 AM
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Exactly.... but I have to agree with tipoytm on this one, the mere fact our car is 1/4 the price of a GT-R also shows that our tranny would be 1/4 as good... Nissan paid GETRAG for what they wanted, so did Mitsu... In the end, the TC is weak and cheap compared to the GT-R's
Mar 3, 2010, 12:33 PM
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Hey Dergoma, you're the guy by Okee right? I think I called you once from the Dealer and had you talk to my friend about a new Ralliart right? Yeah I think it's you :-p
IMO, if you want to modify your car and use it to drag/track race, then the Ralliart is NOT an option... don't even think about it, it's just not the drag/track car, it's a quick little grocery getter for mom and dad or the young one who has no idea how to fix a flat or how to open their car's hood, not the car for a young male who wants to experience racing or modding in any way or circumstance. That's my advice.
If you want a project car it has to be a GSR (if you want to buy Mitsubishi that is)... I also remember Mitsu stating the exact same thing to an Edmunds.com Technician back in 2008... funny thing is I completely missed that point back then lol
We gotta give Mitsubishi time to figure just wtf their TC-SST is so weak (... mind you SSP already figured it out and they have an upgrade package) and see if future TC-SST versions are worth the trouble
IMO, if you want to modify your car and use it to drag/track race, then the Ralliart is NOT an option... don't even think about it, it's just not the drag/track car, it's a quick little grocery getter for mom and dad or the young one who has no idea how to fix a flat or how to open their car's hood, not the car for a young male who wants to experience racing or modding in any way or circumstance. That's my advice.
If you want a project car it has to be a GSR (if you want to buy Mitsubishi that is)... I also remember Mitsu stating the exact same thing to an Edmunds.com Technician back in 2008... funny thing is I completely missed that point back then lol
We gotta give Mitsubishi time to figure just wtf their TC-SST is so weak (... mind you SSP already figured it out and they have an upgrade package) and see if future TC-SST versions are worth the trouble
Yes, thats me, i spoke to him but i was getting rear ended every which way on my car. but i told him that as soon as i get enough $$ for the negative equity i would see him again. but now after reading this, im concerned that this might not be the car for me, i want a DD that is also a weekend warrior. i just never figured that i would see a car that you COULDNT Mod, i mean i understand what amby is saying but Cmon, all cars should have leeway before they cave in and this particular cars seems to cave in even with no mods. I Dont know, maybe waiting a few more months might prove benificial.
Mar 3, 2010, 12:51 PM
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242hp/258lbstq to the wheels with the AMS Flash and Boost Pill.
I haven't dyno'd the car after I got the extra mods such as HKS Downpipe, HKS Filter, Evo X Intercooler & AMS upper pipe, but I assume 10 more horses the most
Just figure that out: an MR comes with pretty much the same power I had on my modded/tuned Ralliart... and their tranny seems to handle more stress... reason why I still think the RA trannies either had a factory issue or are cheaper/weaker then the MR ones
But like I said, I'm really not concerned about my tranny, but about my friend's tranny which never saw a brake-boost launch or a drag race.... and concerned about the few users who've had messed up trannies with NO mods at all... and that Mitsu does NOT fix the dam tranny even if you feel like paying for it
I haven't dyno'd the car after I got the extra mods such as HKS Downpipe, HKS Filter, Evo X Intercooler & AMS upper pipe, but I assume 10 more horses the most
Just figure that out: an MR comes with pretty much the same power I had on my modded/tuned Ralliart... and their tranny seems to handle more stress... reason why I still think the RA trannies either had a factory issue or are cheaper/weaker then the MR ones
But like I said, I'm really not concerned about my tranny, but about my friend's tranny which never saw a brake-boost launch or a drag race.... and concerned about the few users who've had messed up trannies with NO mods at all... and that Mitsu does NOT fix the dam tranny even if you feel like paying for it
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Mar 3, 2010, 01:13 PM
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^ So wait, you are saying he doesn't race his RA at all, never abuse, drive hard regularly, launch, or anything like that... still his tranny gave out?
Either he just got unlucky with a lemon or maybe he didn't tell you the whole story. That's a shame, cuz I was in love with the RA (particurly the SST) when I test drove it last year. If the tranny is that weak, then we made the right choice of buying a minivan... at that time, I was really wishing my wife wanted the RA too lol (it was her decision to make).
Either he just got unlucky with a lemon or maybe he didn't tell you the whole story. That's a shame, cuz I was in love with the RA (particurly the SST) when I test drove it last year. If the tranny is that weak, then we made the right choice of buying a minivan... at that time, I was really wishing my wife wanted the RA too lol (it was her decision to make).
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Mar 3, 2010, 01:24 PM
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^ So wait, you are saying he doesn't race his RA at all, never abuse, drive hard regularly, launch, or anything like that... still his tranny gave out?
Either he just got unlucky with a lemon or maybe he didn't tell you the whole story. That's a shame, cuz I was in love with the RA (particurly the SST) when I test drove it last year. If the tranny is that weak, then we made the right choice of buying a minivan... at that time, I was really wishing my wife wanted the RA too lol (it was her decision to make).
Either he just got unlucky with a lemon or maybe he didn't tell you the whole story. That's a shame, cuz I was in love with the RA (particurly the SST) when I test drove it last year. If the tranny is that weak, then we made the right choice of buying a minivan... at that time, I was really wishing my wife wanted the RA too lol (it was her decision to make).
Just kidding!!!
Mar 3, 2010, 01:28 PM
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^ I trust this guy, I even told him he had to tell me the truth that way I could talk to our insider at Mitsu-local cause I too tell him the truth and he helps me out by figuring out ways to BS his Superiors
He did test his newly acquired powers after the tune, but it was merely illegal street racing a few other cars certain times... but mainly he's been very conservative regarding the Tranny, ever since we had Alex (username hernandez) come up with his messed up stock TC-SST on a car he never modded... I think Alex's car had about 10,000 miles or less?
It was only after a month that Mitsu took care of him by replacing the twinclutch
He did test his newly acquired powers after the tune, but it was merely illegal street racing a few other cars certain times... but mainly he's been very conservative regarding the Tranny, ever since we had Alex (username hernandez) come up with his messed up stock TC-SST on a car he never modded... I think Alex's car had about 10,000 miles or less?
It was only after a month that Mitsu took care of him by replacing the twinclutch
Mar 3, 2010, 01:38 PM
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Frankly, I look forward doing look trips with our Routan than riding in my X. Leather seats <check>, awesome AC <check>, DVD entertainment system <check>, COMFORT <check>, room for 7 passengers <check>, room for hauling a loveseat or dining table <check>... (list goes on and on) LOLNow back to main topic, hmmmm.... illegal street racing... that pretty much tells me how the guy treats his car
I treat my X like how Arnie treats Christine in that John Carpenter flic 
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Mar 3, 2010, 02:02 PM
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LOL about the mini-van
but hey regarding illegal street racing.... you know what I mean, like when you get "tried" on the streets by a jerk on another performance-oriented car?
I think we are ALL here guilty of one or two street races.... am I right?
I want 2 see ONE single person who's never done that... I'll be the first to call them LIAR!
but hey regarding illegal street racing.... you know what I mean, like when you get "tried" on the streets by a jerk on another performance-oriented car?
I think we are ALL here guilty of one or two street races.... am I right?
I want 2 see ONE single person who's never done that... I'll be the first to call them LIAR!