UICP worth buying without FMIC?
Nov 23, 2010, 04:28 PM
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UICP worth buying without FMIC?
I'd like to stay around a 1k budget for this first set of mods (preferably under), and I'm leaning towards AMS products. Something about their brand and reputation attracts me.
I am new to modding, so looking for input
Things I will buy 100% or have already:
- AMS BoV: don't like the plastic OEM leaking; relatively cheap
- AMS Boost Pill: seems like a requirement for any modding
- K&N Drop-In: Bought and installed already
Total: ~$200
I really don't like the stock UICP hose, so I'd really like to buy the AMS UICP. They claim on the site that it only fits AMS or Evo X FMIC, but I don't know if that's really true? UR UICP fits just fine with stock IC, what would make the AMS one incompatible?
I know the FMIC upgrade would be huge, but the price difference is from ~600 to ~1300 total (and this is before buying a tune
). So main question is...should I go UICP or full IC set or neither? Are the gains with just UICP too small for the price?
I am new to modding, so looking for input
Things I will buy 100% or have already:
- AMS BoV: don't like the plastic OEM leaking; relatively cheap
- AMS Boost Pill: seems like a requirement for any modding
- K&N Drop-In: Bought and installed already
Total: ~$200
I really don't like the stock UICP hose, so I'd really like to buy the AMS UICP. They claim on the site that it only fits AMS or Evo X FMIC, but I don't know if that's really true? UR UICP fits just fine with stock IC, what would make the AMS one incompatible?
I know the FMIC upgrade would be huge, but the price difference is from ~600 to ~1300 total (and this is before buying a tune
). So main question is...should I go UICP or full IC set or neither? Are the gains with just UICP too small for the price?
Nov 23, 2010, 04:41 PM
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u dont need a tune for a IC and if u shopped around for a used evo ic and UR full set u can buy everything within ur budget. I agree with what u said, just the uicp the gain isnt worth the price. i suggest u save the money and buy UR since its cheaper and does the same job, quality is very good also. The reason the ams UICP wont fit is because of the coupling, u would need reducers if u wanted to fit your stock IC.
Nov 23, 2010, 05:25 PM
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u dont need a tune for a IC and if u shopped around for a used evo ic and UR full set u can buy everything within ur budget. I agree with what u said, just the uicp the gain isnt worth the price. i suggest u save the money and buy UR since its cheaper and does the same job, quality is very good also. The reason the ams UICP wont fit is because of the coupling, u would need reducers if u wanted to fit your stock IC.
You should be able to pick up a EVO FMIC used for 200 or less....
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u dont need a tune for a IC and if u shopped around for a used evo ic and UR full set u can buy everything within ur budget. I agree with what u said, just the uicp the gain isnt worth the price. i suggest u save the money and buy UR since its cheaper and does the same job, quality is very good also. The reason the ams UICP wont fit is because of the coupling, u would need reducers if u wanted to fit your stock IC.
I'm aiming for 250+ whp, and some seem to hit that with just BoV, Pill, and tune. That's only going to cost around 500 total, still could throw in one more (cheaper) mod. Wondering if JUST the UICP is worth adding to that, or just saving for the full set later (or if there's any other cheap mod to fit into the budget)
Nov 23, 2010, 05:58 PM
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I know I won't need a tune, but I'm getting one with the boostpill anyway, so just looking if there's anything cost effective to throw in
I'm aiming for 250+ whp, and some seem to hit that with just BoV, Pill, and tune. That's only going to cost around 500 total, still could throw in one more (cheaper) mod. Wondering if JUST the UICP is worth adding to that, or just saving for the full set later (or if there's any other cheap mod to fit into the budget)
I'm aiming for 250+ whp, and some seem to hit that with just BoV, Pill, and tune. That's only going to cost around 500 total, still could throw in one more (cheaper) mod. Wondering if JUST the UICP is worth adding to that, or just saving for the full set later (or if there's any other cheap mod to fit into the budget)
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I know I won't need a tune, but I'm getting one with the boostpill anyway, so just looking if there's anything cost effective to throw in
I'm aiming for 250+ whp, and some seem to hit that with just BoV, Pill, and tune. That's only going to cost around 500 total, still could throw in one more (cheaper) mod. Wondering if JUST the UICP is worth adding to that, or just saving for the full set later (or if there's any other cheap mod to fit into the budget)
I'm aiming for 250+ whp, and some seem to hit that with just BoV, Pill, and tune. That's only going to cost around 500 total, still could throw in one more (cheaper) mod. Wondering if JUST the UICP is worth adding to that, or just saving for the full set later (or if there's any other cheap mod to fit into the budget)
If you plan on keeping your car for a long time, you should really want to increase your intercooler efficiency. You tune+boost pill will considerably increase your boost level and thus, the intake temperature. To keep engine reliability up, you have to take intake temperature low (as higher temperature increases the risks of getting high level of knock).
Usually the stock EVO X IC will come with the stock EVO X UICP. Upgrading the UICP leads to some increase but it's much more an estheatic mod. The engine bay looks much better with shiny pipes rather that black hoses
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As recommended above, you should at least get an EVO X Intercooler.
If you plan on keeping your car for a long time, you should really want to increase your intercooler efficiency. You tune+boost pill will considerably increase your boost level and thus, the intake temperature. To keep engine reliability up, you have to take intake temperature low (as higher temperature increases the risks of getting high level of knock).
Usually the stock EVO X IC will come with the stock EVO X UICP. Upgrading the UICP leads to some increase but it's much more an estheatic mod. The engine bay looks much better with shiny pipes rather that black hoses
If you plan on keeping your car for a long time, you should really want to increase your intercooler efficiency. You tune+boost pill will considerably increase your boost level and thus, the intake temperature. To keep engine reliability up, you have to take intake temperature low (as higher temperature increases the risks of getting high level of knock).
Usually the stock EVO X IC will come with the stock EVO X UICP. Upgrading the UICP leads to some increase but it's much more an estheatic mod. The engine bay looks much better with shiny pipes rather that black hoses
but yeah, logical sense (and this forum) tells me I should just bite the bullet and order the whole IC set
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If you plan on keeping your car for a long time, you should really want to increase your intercooler efficiency. You tune+boost pill will considerably increase your boost level and thus, the intake temperature. To keep engine reliability up, you have to take intake temperature low (as higher temperature increases the risks of getting high level of knock).
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The larger UICP does not lead to big benefit. The pipe going out of the turbo is the limiting factor. This is a system, the part with the lowest flow sets the flow for the whole system.
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i originally just had the tune before i upgraded the fmic/piping and i found the heat coming from the engine was really abnormal, once i upgraded to the evox intercooler i found it ran alot cooler even after running around in sport for several hours at a time...even seems to help out with gas mileage a little 
if you look around on here as was stated before you should find the intercooler and piping for a really good price to stay under budget. good luck
if you look around on here as was stated before you should find the intercooler and piping for a really good price to stay under budget. good luck
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I will hopefully be getting an Evo X FMIC and UICP sometime this week, so just wanted to double check.
From previous threads, it seems like the stock LICP will fit BUT I will need a new coupler, and even then the fitment isn't perfect.
So two questions:
1. Where do I buy a new coupler to fit the LICP to the Evo X FMIC?
2. I plan on getting either an AMS or UR UICP, but if I'm going to have some fitment issues on the LICP, should I go ahead and order a new LICP as well? And if so would an aftermarket Evo X LICP fit? I can't seem to find a clear answer from old threads
From previous threads, it seems like the stock LICP will fit BUT I will need a new coupler, and even then the fitment isn't perfect.
So two questions:
1. Where do I buy a new coupler to fit the LICP to the Evo X FMIC?
2. I plan on getting either an AMS or UR UICP, but if I'm going to have some fitment issues on the LICP, should I go ahead and order a new LICP as well? And if so would an aftermarket Evo X LICP fit? I can't seem to find a clear answer from old threads
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ive got the evo x fmic and my uicp is injen and its actually for the ralliart and it fits perfect, my licp is from UR and is also for the ralliart and fit perfect. hope it helps any. goodluck
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I will hopefully be getting an Evo X FMIC and UICP sometime this week, so just wanted to double check.
From previous threads, it seems like the stock LICP will fit BUT I will need a new coupler, and even then the fitment isn't perfect.
So two questions:
1. Where do I buy a new coupler to fit the LICP to the Evo X FMIC?
2. I plan on getting either an AMS or UR UICP, but if I'm going to have some fitment issues on the LICP, should I go ahead and order a new LICP as well? And if so would an aftermarket Evo X LICP fit? I can't seem to find a clear answer from old threads
From previous threads, it seems like the stock LICP will fit BUT I will need a new coupler, and even then the fitment isn't perfect.
So two questions:
1. Where do I buy a new coupler to fit the LICP to the Evo X FMIC?
2. I plan on getting either an AMS or UR UICP, but if I'm going to have some fitment issues on the LICP, should I go ahead and order a new LICP as well? And if so would an aftermarket Evo X LICP fit? I can't seem to find a clear answer from old threads
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