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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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Ya you can tune it out, it's basically too much fuel for the spark to burn it all
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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I wonder of the V3 GST flash will address this.
yes
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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V3, hmmmmmmm.....
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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Sport manual shift faster and Bites harder than Normal manual. I try to minimize the usage of this mode because is clearly that is putting the SST under higher stress and wear.
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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My dealer said you get 6 miles to the gallon in sport mode if you're having too much fun. 4 cylinder or not, awd burns gas pretty hard
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 09:35 PM
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^^ that could also be cause your right foot gets heavier when you're in sport mode
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Originally Posted by EvoOtto
I wonder of the V3 GST flash will address this.
yes
Ooh, 2011 is looking to start well.....!!!!

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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 12:41 AM
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OMG can't wait for V3!!!!!
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkyPR
Sport manual shift faster and Bites harder than Normal manual. I try to minimize the usage of this mode because is clearly that is putting the SST under higher stress and wear.
Can anyone confirm whether this is true or not? This is the first time I've heard somebody make a claim like this....
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 08:03 AM
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Can anyone confirm whether this is true or not? This is the first time I've heard somebody make a claim like this....
I drive in Normal mode as much as possible too since the sport mode seems to put stress on the tranny. It's just my assumption though..
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 08:52 AM
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Sport mode will actually put less stress on your transmission (clutch pack). The program is designed to clamp down faster and not slip as much which in return saves on clutch wear. SS mode would be even better.

Gas miles are NOT effected by mode. The weight of your foot does this.
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 09:19 AM
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Really... hm....
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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Really... hm....
Really.

Clutch pack slippage between gear changes generates friction and produces sloughing of burnt clutch plate material. The transmission fluid filter captures most of the non-colloidal particulate matter. Initially quite porous, the filter becomes more efficient with time as its porosity is replace by particulate matter. This increase in efficiency however, slows circulation of transmission fluid. This operation is normal, and required to shift gears within the transmission.

With the above in mind:
Smoother shifting requires longer clutch pack slippage. The longer a clutch pack is allowed to slip, the longer friction generation occurs thereby producing increased sloughing of burnt clutch plate material. Burnt clutch plate material ultimately dirties the transmission fluid and clogs the filter. Furthermore, slowing and ultimate cessation of transmission fluid flow through the cooler decreases its efficiency as a heat exchanger.

Increased transmission temperature and less than optimal transmission fluid circulation and cooling due to burnt particulate clutch plate matter are the results.

At some point the transmission will overheat, as heat production will surpass the transmissions ability to cool. Some transmissions have failsafe mechanisms to shutdown operation, while others do not. I have seen torque converters literally pressed onto their input shaft from overheating.

Harder shifts, while easier on the transmission, may pose threats to other equipment receiving the load application over a decreased time period.

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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Alterna
Really.

Clutch pack slippage between gear changes generates friction and produces sloughing of burnt clutch plate material. The transmission fluid filter captures most of the non-colloidal particulate matter. Initially quite porous, the filter becomes more efficient with time as its porosity is replace by particulate matter. This increase in efficiency however, slows circulation of transmission fluid. This operation is normal, and required to shift gears within the transmission.

With the above in mind:
Smoother shifting requires longer clutch pack slippage. The longer a clutch pack is allowed to slip, the longer friction generation occurs thereby producing increased sloughing of burnt clutch plate material. Burnt clutch plate material ultimately dirties the transmission fluid and clogs the filter. Furthermore, slowing and ultimate cessation of transmission fluid flow through the cooler decreases its efficiency as a heat exchanger.

Increased transmission temperature and less than optimal transmission fluid circulation and cooling due to burnt particulate clutch plate matter are the results.

At some point the transmission will overheat, as heat production will surpass the transmissions ability to cool. Some transmissions have failsafe mechanisms to shutdown operation, while others do not. I have seen torque converters literally pressed onto their input shaft from overheating.

Harder shifts, while easier on the transmission, may pose threats to other equipment receiving the load application over a decreased time period.
Thanks for the explanation

The last sentence made sense. So it would be easy on the transmission, but "may" pose threats to other equipment. Considering transmission is the most expensive part in our cars, I think I'll drive in sport more often... lol
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Alterna
Really.

Clutch pack slippage between gear changes generates friction and produces sloughing of burnt clutch plate material. The transmission fluid filter captures most of the non-colloidal particulate matter. Initially quite porous, the filter becomes more efficient with time as its porosity is replace by particulate matter. This increase in efficiency however, slows circulation of transmission fluid. This operation is normal, and required to shift gears within the transmission.

With the above in mind:
Smoother shifting requires longer clutch pack slippage. The longer a clutch pack is allowed to slip, the longer friction generation occurs thereby producing increased sloughing of burnt clutch plate material. Burnt clutch plate material ultimately dirties the transmission fluid and clogs the filter. Furthermore, slowing and ultimate cessation of transmission fluid flow through the cooler decreases its efficiency as a heat exchanger.

Increased transmission temperature and less than optimal transmission fluid circulation and cooling due to burnt particulate clutch plate matter are the results.

At some point the transmission will overheat, as heat production will surpass the transmissions ability to cool. Some transmissions have failsafe mechanisms to shutdown operation, while others do not. I have seen torque converters literally pressed onto their input shaft from overheating.

Harder shifts, while easier on the transmission, may pose threats to other equipment receiving the load application over a decreased time period.
Unfortunately, the laws of physics state the opposite of your claim. Application of maximum clamping force on a moving object over a shorter period of time results in greater wear, and higher heat generation.

By your analogy, stopping a moving vehicle by using maximum braking force all the time will result in longer brake pad life, which is not true. Stopping a car as quickly as possible always results in greater wear on the brake pads, which translates to shorter brake pad life.

Like wise, by your analogy, shifting a manual transmission car by dumping the clutch with ever up shift will result in longer clutch life. Again, this is untrue. Dumping the clutch with every shift change always results in increased clutch wear, which of course translates to shorter clutch life.


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