Transmission acts stuck??
Feb 9, 2011, 11:57 AM
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Transmission acts stuck??
I think this is cold and snow weather related as this recently happened only on the times the car has been sitting outside work between lunch or the end of the day.
I put the car in drive or reverse. I feel the trans shift into appropriate gear. I tap on the gas and only the revs go up. If i push a little harder the car jumps forward or reverse and then everything seems fine. It doesn't do it everytime only when the car has been sitting for a little while in the freezing temps and snow.
Has this happened to anyone else?
I put the car in drive or reverse. I feel the trans shift into appropriate gear. I tap on the gas and only the revs go up. If i push a little harder the car jumps forward or reverse and then everything seems fine. It doesn't do it everytime only when the car has been sitting for a little while in the freezing temps and snow.
Has this happened to anyone else?
Feb 9, 2011, 12:45 PM
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No I just hopped in and tried to take off. I guess if it happens again I can put it back in park and see if that helps. Just surprised me.
I have been told its better to let the car warm up as you drive and letting it idle for too long can be bad. That is how I got into that habit. I just make sure to drive easy until everything warms up.
I have been told its better to let the car warm up as you drive and letting it idle for too long can be bad. That is how I got into that habit. I just make sure to drive easy until everything warms up.
Feb 9, 2011, 12:55 PM
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No I just hopped in and tried to take off. I guess if it happens again I can put it back in park and see if that helps. Just surprised me.
I have been told its better to let the car warm up as you drive and letting it idle for too long can be bad. That is how I got into that habit. I just make sure to drive easy until everything warms up.
I have been told its better to let the car warm up as you drive and letting it idle for too long can be bad. That is how I got into that habit. I just make sure to drive easy until everything warms up.
the TC-SST is very goofy when it's cold
Feb 9, 2011, 03:13 PM
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I think this is cold and snow weather related as this recently happened only on the times the car has been sitting outside work between lunch or the end of the day.
I put the car in drive or reverse. I feel the trans shift into appropriate gear. I tap on the gas and only the revs go up. If i push a little harder the car jumps forward or reverse and then everything seems fine. It doesn't do it everytime only when the car has been sitting for a little while in the freezing temps and snow.
Has this happened to anyone else?
I put the car in drive or reverse. I feel the trans shift into appropriate gear. I tap on the gas and only the revs go up. If i push a little harder the car jumps forward or reverse and then everything seems fine. It doesn't do it everytime only when the car has been sitting for a little while in the freezing temps and snow.
Has this happened to anyone else?
I wonder if brake pads ever get water on them while warm, then freeze to the discs after hours in the cold wind...?
Hearing stuff like this, I'm so happy with my warm Aussie climate!!
Rich
Feb 9, 2011, 04:24 PM
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Feb 9, 2011, 05:17 PM
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So... speaking from a position of almost total ignorance (as usual), my suggestion would be: chunks of sludgy snowy muck getting kicked up onto warm discs/pads, where it sits, melts a bit, freezes again after a few hours in icy winds, and results in locked-up brakes when you next try to go driving. A bit of force applied breaks the bond around the edge of the pads... and you're good to go.
Super-cold weather just sounds so unpleasant. If it's all the same, I'll take the heatwaves, bush wildfires, cyclones....
Rich
Feb 9, 2011, 05:26 PM
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So... speaking from a position of almost total ignorance (as usual), my suggestion would be: chunks of sludgy snowy muck getting kicked up onto warm discs/pads, where it sits, melts a bit, freezes again after a few hours in icy winds, and results in locked-up brakes when you next try to go driving. A bit of force applied breaks the bond around the edge of the pads... and you're good to go.
Super-cold weather just sounds so unpleasant. If it's all the same, I'll take the heatwaves, bush wildfires, cyclones....
Rich
Feb 10, 2011, 08:12 AM
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Credibility Advisory Warning: The last time I drove in snow was 15 years ago, in Europe. These days, it's all floods, cyclones, bush fires, droughts, golf-ball sized hail stones, etc. Not all at once, mind you. Welcome to Australia!
So... speaking from a position of almost total ignorance (as usual), my suggestion would be: chunks of sludgy snowy muck getting kicked up onto warm discs/pads, where it sits, melts a bit, freezes again after a few hours in icy winds, and results in locked-up brakes when you next try to go driving. A bit of force applied breaks the bond around the edge of the pads... and you're good to go.
Super-cold weather just sounds so unpleasant. If it's all the same, I'll take the heatwaves, bush wildfires, cyclones....
Rich
So... speaking from a position of almost total ignorance (as usual), my suggestion would be: chunks of sludgy snowy muck getting kicked up onto warm discs/pads, where it sits, melts a bit, freezes again after a few hours in icy winds, and results in locked-up brakes when you next try to go driving. A bit of force applied breaks the bond around the edge of the pads... and you're good to go.
Super-cold weather just sounds so unpleasant. If it's all the same, I'll take the heatwaves, bush wildfires, cyclones....
Rich
Feb 10, 2011, 10:29 AM
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taken from mitsu's tsb about tcsst characteristics:
Throttle Delay at Start Up - If the ambient temperature is very low (approx. -20* C, -4* F), engine speed is restricted to 3,000 rpm for approximately 3 seconds after starting, if the gearshift is in N and the brake pedal is not depressed. This is a normal characteristic. Transmission oil viscosity is very high in very cold temperatures and there is a slight possibility of clutch drag. Because gears are always pre-engaged in N, there is a slight possibility that the vehicle could move if the clutch drags.
Delayed Engagement from P - Due to the complex nature of the transmission, customers may experience longer gear engagement than they might initially expect. This is a normal characteristic.
Flashing "R" indicator on MID - When shifting into R (reverse position), the customer may notice the R in the MID flashing, indicating an unsuccessful shift. This may be due to gear blocking. The TC-SST is an automated MANUAL transmission and occasional gear blocking is possible. If a customer complains of this condition, advise them to shift to a different gear and then retry reverse.
between the super thick fluid and all the other characteristics of the transmission, I would assume that what you are experiencing is fairly normal operating characteristics. I've had late engagement myself after the car has sat in the freezing cold, even after a 5-10 minute warmup at idle.
also, someone mentioned frozen brakes. this is another real possibility that i have personally experienced, as well. this is usually accompanied with the usual click/clunk noise of the brakes freeing up that can be found on any car. i'm sure you've had a car sit outside for awhile, freezing or otherwise, and noticed that noise upon first moving especially when there's a lot of moisture in the environment causing any residual brake dust/powder to oxidize rapidly and bond the pad surface to the rotor surface
Throttle Delay at Start Up - If the ambient temperature is very low (approx. -20* C, -4* F), engine speed is restricted to 3,000 rpm for approximately 3 seconds after starting, if the gearshift is in N and the brake pedal is not depressed. This is a normal characteristic. Transmission oil viscosity is very high in very cold temperatures and there is a slight possibility of clutch drag. Because gears are always pre-engaged in N, there is a slight possibility that the vehicle could move if the clutch drags.
Delayed Engagement from P - Due to the complex nature of the transmission, customers may experience longer gear engagement than they might initially expect. This is a normal characteristic.
Flashing "R" indicator on MID - When shifting into R (reverse position), the customer may notice the R in the MID flashing, indicating an unsuccessful shift. This may be due to gear blocking. The TC-SST is an automated MANUAL transmission and occasional gear blocking is possible. If a customer complains of this condition, advise them to shift to a different gear and then retry reverse.
between the super thick fluid and all the other characteristics of the transmission, I would assume that what you are experiencing is fairly normal operating characteristics. I've had late engagement myself after the car has sat in the freezing cold, even after a 5-10 minute warmup at idle.
also, someone mentioned frozen brakes. this is another real possibility that i have personally experienced, as well. this is usually accompanied with the usual click/clunk noise of the brakes freeing up that can be found on any car. i'm sure you've had a car sit outside for awhile, freezing or otherwise, and noticed that noise upon first moving especially when there's a lot of moisture in the environment causing any residual brake dust/powder to oxidize rapidly and bond the pad surface to the rotor surface
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Feb 10, 2011, 11:02 AM
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taken from mitsu's tsb about tcsst characteristics:
Throttle Delay at Start Up - If the ambient temperature is very low (approx. -20* C, -4* F), engine speed is restricted to 3,000 rpm for approximately 3 seconds after starting, if the gearshift is in N and the brake pedal is not depressed. This is a normal characteristic. Transmission oil viscosity is very high in very cold temperatures and there is a slight possibility of clutch drag. Because gears are always pre-engaged in N, there is a slight possibility that the vehicle could move if the clutch drags.
Delayed Engagement from P - Due to the complex nature of the transmission, customers may experience longer gear engagement than they might initially expect. This is a normal characteristic.
Flashing "R" indicator on MID - When shifting into R (reverse position), the customer may notice the R in the MID flashing, indicating an unsuccessful shift. This may be due to gear blocking. The TC-SST is an automated MANUAL transmission and occasional gear blocking is possible. If a customer complains of this condition, advise them to shift to a different gear and then retry reverse.
between the super thick fluid and all the other characteristics of the transmission, I would assume that what you are experiencing is fairly normal operating characteristics. I've had late engagement myself after the car has sat in the freezing cold, even after a 5-10 minute warmup at idle.
also, someone mentioned frozen brakes. this is another real possibility that i have personally experienced, as well. this is usually accompanied with the usual click/clunk noise of the brakes freeing up that can be found on any car. i'm sure you've had a car sit outside for awhile, freezing or otherwise, and noticed that noise upon first moving especially when there's a lot of moisture in the environment causing any residual brake dust/powder to oxidize rapidly and bond the pad surface to the rotor surface
Throttle Delay at Start Up - If the ambient temperature is very low (approx. -20* C, -4* F), engine speed is restricted to 3,000 rpm for approximately 3 seconds after starting, if the gearshift is in N and the brake pedal is not depressed. This is a normal characteristic. Transmission oil viscosity is very high in very cold temperatures and there is a slight possibility of clutch drag. Because gears are always pre-engaged in N, there is a slight possibility that the vehicle could move if the clutch drags.
Delayed Engagement from P - Due to the complex nature of the transmission, customers may experience longer gear engagement than they might initially expect. This is a normal characteristic.
Flashing "R" indicator on MID - When shifting into R (reverse position), the customer may notice the R in the MID flashing, indicating an unsuccessful shift. This may be due to gear blocking. The TC-SST is an automated MANUAL transmission and occasional gear blocking is possible. If a customer complains of this condition, advise them to shift to a different gear and then retry reverse.
between the super thick fluid and all the other characteristics of the transmission, I would assume that what you are experiencing is fairly normal operating characteristics. I've had late engagement myself after the car has sat in the freezing cold, even after a 5-10 minute warmup at idle.
also, someone mentioned frozen brakes. this is another real possibility that i have personally experienced, as well. this is usually accompanied with the usual click/clunk noise of the brakes freeing up that can be found on any car. i'm sure you've had a car sit outside for awhile, freezing or otherwise, and noticed that noise upon first moving especially when there's a lot of moisture in the environment causing any residual brake dust/powder to oxidize rapidly and bond the pad surface to the rotor surface
I was going to mention that until I read your post. Its happened to me on some cold nights in the snow trying to pull out of my spot after the car had been warmed for about 10 minutes. Put the car in drive and tapped the gas but the car just sat there then after another try was this loud CLANK and the car moved up. With all the noises and funny thing this car does I assume almost everything is normally unless there is a service light on the dash...
