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Old Apr 13, 2011, 12:46 PM
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X swap tuning

So, I just have a few pieces left to get my hands on before the X turbo swap. I've been looking over my rom collection and have noticed that the RA and the X have unique tables for Map engine load and Maf scaling.

For a minute there I was thinking about just swapping in the X map engine load tables and the maf table (assuming I swap over to an X maf housing / intake setup). Then pulling tables from one of my old X gsr basemaps to create a base map for the swap....

However, after giving it more thought.. messing with the map engine load tables may not be the best idea if there are other load related tables that we / I do not currently have access to... specifically SST Related tables (torque limits, shift point logic, requested torque, etc etc).....

Just wanted to get a feel for what others have done with tuning X swapped ralliarts.. Maf table is no big deal, mainly interested in everyones take on the map engine load tables and if they were changed when doing the swap.
Old Apr 13, 2011, 01:19 PM
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Rumor has it that its much easier to switch to X VE and Timing Tables rather than correcting RA ones. I dont know this from first hand experience, but reputable sources (you know who you are ) have stated this to be the case.
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You'll need to swap over the MAP table values as they are VE tables. Your load will be all wack with the Evo X turbo and MAF if you don't, and some other weird little things happen.

Your assumption of moving over the Evo 10 MAF scaling is correct as well (if you go to a Evo X MAF housing)
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Originally Posted by razorlab
You'll need to swap over the MAP table values as they are VE tables. Your load will be all wack with the Evo X turbo and MAF if you don't, and some other weird little things happen.

Your assumption of moving over the Evo 10 MAF scaling is correct as well (if you go to a Evo X MAF housing)
Any affect on unseen tables by moving the ve tables over (map engine load)?
Old Apr 13, 2011, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad_SB
Any affect on unseen tables by moving the ve tables over (map engine load)?
I haven't seen or logged any weirdness.
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Originally Posted by razorlab
I haven't seen or logged any weirdness.
Nice!

On a side note, how much work did you have to do on the rear fenders to fit the X wheels on your SB? I test fitted one of Seth's wheels (with 245 z1 run wide as heck star specs) and I swear the rubber was 1/4" outside of the fenders
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Originally Posted by Mad_SB
Nice!

On a side note, how much work did you have to do on the rear fenders to fit the X wheels on your SB? I test fitted one of Seth's wheels (with 245 z1 run wide as heck star specs) and I swear the rubber was 1/4" outside of the fenders
Just a simple roll for the 235 DWS's.

Could probably fit a 245 to 255 no problem but they didn't have that size in stock when I ordered them.
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Originally Posted by razorlab
You'll need to swap over the MAP table values as they are VE tables. Your load will be all wack with the Evo X turbo and MAF if you don't, and some other weird little things happen.

Your assumption of moving over the Evo 10 MAF scaling is correct as well (if you go to a Evo X MAF housing)
Thanks a ton for the info

My tuner has a close friend who has a 2011 GSR that he can easily use for reference for when my X swap is done. He first mentioned if it was possible to just copy over most of the tables, but the swap was still a while away so I didn't bother to ask for which specific tables (his 2011 GSR is stock right now, just like mine will be after the swap). Now I have a better idea

Will be interesting how the RA comes out with the exact same setup
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So if i get this right.
When EvoX swap is done,best base to start tuning is copy EvoX MAP tables over Ralliart´s own? And start tuning from that.
(sorry i dont understand english so well )
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Originally Posted by Livefast.eu
So if i get this right.
When EvoX swap is done,best base to start tuning is copy EvoX MAP tables over Ralliart´s own? And start tuning from that.
(sorry i dont understand english so well )
That is correct
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Anyone can share those?
(car is EDM)

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Old Apr 15, 2011, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Livefast.eu

Anyone can share those?
(car is EDM)
You can grab the roms here:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/b...EVO/tech/ROMs/
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I would think that with the Ralliart you would need to start with the EVO SST specific ROMs not the GSR's as somebody mentioned. Right?
Old Apr 15, 2011, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Damn. Big thanks! Your one of a god
Hmm....I have 2010. Can i use that:
54070007_2009_EDM_SS..>

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Originally Posted by 10Sportback
I would think that with the Ralliart you would need to start with the EVO SST specific ROMs not the GSR's as somebody mentioned. Right?
With the VE tables, it doesn't matter. Also, to make it clear, you aren't swapping roms, you are swapping table values.



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