Strange Engine Noise.. need some help diagnosing
May 9, 2011, 10:43 PM
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To reiterate:
I don't think this is an issue with Boost Pill / Boost Pill map, I'm worried the GST Stock Pill map caused the damage as I was running that for about a month prior to upgrading to the Boost Pill / Boost Pill map.
I don't think this is an issue with Boost Pill / Boost Pill map, I'm worried the GST Stock Pill map caused the damage as I was running that for about a month prior to upgrading to the Boost Pill / Boost Pill map.
You installed the GST Base Map a month ago. NO problems for a month. Then you install the boost pill and change maps. But somehow you think the OLD base map caused this??? Even thought you state several times that there were no problems until the change. Could it not be more reasonable that the boost pill/or map caused the issue (as in this the only change since the noise occurred)??
I'm not saying that the Upgraded map and pill caused this, I don't believe that for a minute. Not with the amount of time and work put into making an Awesome Vanilla Tune ;p If you ever take a look at the actual tables you can see that there is plenty of broad term safety built in. Heck there are what, umpteen bajillion RA owners who have/are using this tune..?
What I'm trying to get at, in a long winded sort of fashion, is that your logic is completely bassackward. "I put in a new Y piece/part, and now the car is acting weird. But it's caused by the X piece/part I installed a month ago, but now removed"???? Is anyone else reading this the same way.
Oh yeah, BTW, a little secret for ya.....ITS A RALLIART!!! They make a ton of noise that any other car on the road would explode if they tried to duplicate. And yes my car makes that same noise in the morning when its cold.
What everyone is trying to gently tell you, and I'm trying to NOT gently tell you, is that phrasing your title that way lends an air of....hostility and accusations.
GL
May 9, 2011, 10:59 PM
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You get an award from me.... "Dumbest thread title of the year" with and your a runner-up in the "Stupidest thread of the decade" category. Nt car makes the same exact noise, did the day I bought it, and does today. Oh, and I've been running the Boostpill & basemap since the day I owned the car. It's been to the track, driven hard, and even gone off-roading. If someone was going to blow up their car with this basemap, it'd have been me. Simply put, I'm not convinced you even have an issue with your car, and if you do, I don't believe it has anything to do with the basemap unless you did exactly what it says not to and ran the stock map with boostpill or the boostpill map without it. Either way, you really need to change the thread title cause even though it's bs, it gives new users un-needed fear of the awesome FREE basemaps Bryan offers.
May 10, 2011, 12:04 AM
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The best thing to alleviate any newbie-scaring is to see the nice, clean Q&A style investigation... and to track it through to its final resolution.
We're all grown-ups, and we've all taken responsibility for what we do... including the OP, from my reading.
Bryan is clearly happy to do a straight, businesslike Q&A based on observations and experience. That speaks volumes - all that needs to be said, really.
Rich
We're all grown-ups, and we've all taken responsibility for what we do... including the OP, from my reading.
Bryan is clearly happy to do a straight, businesslike Q&A based on observations and experience. That speaks volumes - all that needs to be said, really.
Rich
May 10, 2011, 01:04 AM
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Let's see if I have this straight....
You installed the GST Base Map a month ago. NO problems for a month. Then you install the boost pill and change maps. But somehow you think the OLD base map caused this??? Even thought you state several times that there were no problems until the change. Could it not be more reasonable that the boost pill/or map caused the issue (as in this the only change since the noise occurred)??
I'm not saying that the Upgraded map and pill caused this, I don't believe that for a minute. Not with the amount of time and work put into making an Awesome Vanilla Tune ;p If you ever take a look at the actual tables you can see that there is plenty of broad term safety built in. Heck there are what, umpteen bajillion RA owners who have/are using this tune..?
What I'm trying to get at, in a long winded sort of fashion, is that your logic is completely bassackward. "I put in a new Y piece/part, and now the car is acting weird. But it's caused by the X piece/part I installed a month ago, but now removed"???? Is anyone else reading this the same way.
Oh yeah, BTW, a little secret for ya.....ITS A RALLIART!!! They make a ton of noise that any other car on the road would explode if they tried to duplicate. And yes my car makes that same noise in the morning when its cold.
What everyone is trying to gently tell you, and I'm trying to NOT gently tell you, is that phrasing your title that way lends an air of....hostility and accusations.
GL
You installed the GST Base Map a month ago. NO problems for a month. Then you install the boost pill and change maps. But somehow you think the OLD base map caused this??? Even thought you state several times that there were no problems until the change. Could it not be more reasonable that the boost pill/or map caused the issue (as in this the only change since the noise occurred)??
I'm not saying that the Upgraded map and pill caused this, I don't believe that for a minute. Not with the amount of time and work put into making an Awesome Vanilla Tune ;p If you ever take a look at the actual tables you can see that there is plenty of broad term safety built in. Heck there are what, umpteen bajillion RA owners who have/are using this tune..?
What I'm trying to get at, in a long winded sort of fashion, is that your logic is completely bassackward. "I put in a new Y piece/part, and now the car is acting weird. But it's caused by the X piece/part I installed a month ago, but now removed"???? Is anyone else reading this the same way.
Oh yeah, BTW, a little secret for ya.....ITS A RALLIART!!! They make a ton of noise that any other car on the road would explode if they tried to duplicate. And yes my car makes that same noise in the morning when its cold.
What everyone is trying to gently tell you, and I'm trying to NOT gently tell you, is that phrasing your title that way lends an air of....hostility and accusations.
GL
Anyway, it seems like the sound is common although it's odd the dealer mechanic thinks there is something wrong it. He may be hearing something else I'm not though.
May 10, 2011, 05:59 AM
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I had this noise too (and even before the basemap flash if I'm not mistaken).
Is it normal that I figured it was normal anyways haha! Ralliart noises....
That being said, it's the clutches for sure. It's generally a noisy transmission, especially not in gear. My car sounds exactly like Bryan's.
Is it normal that I figured it was normal anyways haha! Ralliart noises....
That being said, it's the clutches for sure. It's generally a noisy transmission, especially not in gear. My car sounds exactly like Bryan's.
May 10, 2011, 06:00 AM
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Does anyone else have slight idle bouncing though? I have the Boost Pill 93 Oct basemap.
If I let it idle (even warmed up), it tends to not be a very steady idle. I'm talking a small discrepancy, like 100 rpm movement (could be the rad, fans, transmission, etc...).
If I let it idle (even warmed up), it tends to not be a very steady idle. I'm talking a small discrepancy, like 100 rpm movement (could be the rad, fans, transmission, etc...).
May 10, 2011, 07:07 AM
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Edit: See here - https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/09...ic-normal.html
Back on topic, what's the verdict then?
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May 10, 2011, 09:49 AM
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Changed the thread title so as not to cause a panic.... very unlikely this is in anyway related to the base maps. Will update title as I read the thread and we figure out what the issue is.
May 10, 2011, 10:37 AM
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No. I only noticed that sound after Boost Pill upgrade because that's the first time I've started my engine while the hood was open since I did the first Stock pill map. The sound was likely there prior to the boost pill upgrade. Hope that makes more sense.
Anyway, it seems like the sound is common although it's odd the dealer mechanic thinks there is something wrong it. He may be hearing something else I'm not though.
Anyway, it seems like the sound is common although it's odd the dealer mechanic thinks there is something wrong it. He may be hearing something else I'm not though.
It's ok to think it's odd. Everybody goes through it as it is loud compared to other cars like honda, etc.
I wouldn't put too much weight into what a dealer thinks. They unfortunatly generally do not know much. Espically with the SST transmission.
May 10, 2011, 02:46 PM
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Mitsubishi Corporate has come back and said that the noise is normal. I wasn't given any flak about the car being tuned either, so that's good.
Didn't mean to cause a panic with the thread title. Thank you for changing it! I'll go back and edit first post as well.
Didn't mean to cause a panic with the thread title. Thank you for changing it! I'll go back and edit first post as well.
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