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Slightly off topic, but important to the conversation:
I see lightly used SST's for sale somewhat regularly, in the $3-5K price range with 15-50K miles. At this cost it would be cheaper to break it down, replace everything that can be with upgraded parts and pay the labor, than swapping in a 5 speed.
Additionally, all these quotes of $12-14k for a new SST installed are dealer invoices, which are purposely inflated from the Mitsu; not independent shop prices. It's my belief that Mitsu purposely inflate these figures (accounting games).
I see lightly used SST's for sale somewhat regularly, in the $3-5K price range with 15-50K miles. At this cost it would be cheaper to break it down, replace everything that can be with upgraded parts and pay the labor, than swapping in a 5 speed.
Additionally, all these quotes of $12-14k for a new SST installed are dealer invoices, which are purposely inflated from the Mitsu; not independent shop prices. It's my belief that Mitsu purposely inflate these figures (accounting games).
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Here is the story:
I can't remember if it was RRM or RRE (I am going to assume that it was RRE) took a Lancer GTS, turbocharged it with RA/Evo X parts, swapped in the RA driveline/fuel tank/etc., replaced the GTS transmission with an Evo X manual, and created a true manual AWD regular Lancer with a manual transmission. Have I ever seen this car? No. Have I talked to anyone at either company about that car? No. That is just the word on the street. It is apparently true. It is also one of a kind.
I can't remember if it was RRM or RRE (I am going to assume that it was RRE) took a Lancer GTS, turbocharged it with RA/Evo X parts, swapped in the RA driveline/fuel tank/etc., replaced the GTS transmission with an Evo X manual, and created a true manual AWD regular Lancer with a manual transmission. Have I ever seen this car? No. Have I talked to anyone at either company about that car? No. That is just the word on the street. It is apparently true. It is also one of a kind.
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It was RRM (they do work on non-factory-turbo lancers, including turbo kits for GTS).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbIEEm7wa6Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbIEEm7wa6Y
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The floorboard stuff I totally understand when going from a normal FWD lancer chassis to AWD since you need to allow room for the rear diff, diff mounts, driveshaft, etc.
Again, the transmission isn't ANYWHERE CLOSE to the floor plan on either chassis. Swapping a 5spd into a Ralliart will not change this. The Tcase sits in the exact same spot on RA/Evo 10.
Please put this to rest, stop with the assumptions, and just look at the drivetrain and chassis imagery.
Again, the transmission isn't ANYWHERE CLOSE to the floor plan on either chassis. Swapping a 5spd into a Ralliart will not change this. The Tcase sits in the exact same spot on RA/Evo 10.
Please put this to rest, stop with the assumptions, and just look at the drivetrain and chassis imagery.
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The question is, are there any other companies other than SSP who sell or will be selling parts for the SST like the packs and steels? It feels like their prices are just jacked because no one else sells any other parts
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Okay! That helped a lot.
Refined base assumption is $5k for a SST replacement (not $12K :O)
and the EVO X tranny/pedal/shift assy. would be 'close' to $5K... (maybe less, but not a lot less)
So for simplicity and time i would now just source a low mileage used TC-SST.
(and keep taking good care of the one i have )
Refined base assumption is $5k for a SST replacement (not $12K :O)
and the EVO X tranny/pedal/shift assy. would be 'close' to $5K... (maybe less, but not a lot less)
So for simplicity and time i would now just source a low mileage used TC-SST.
(and keep taking good care of the one i have )
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First Ralliart motor died from overheating, since They rebuilt the Ralliart it still has SST.
the time I went to Infineon Raceway & visited WORKS, I saw a what looks like a GTS with everything stripped from the interior & engine bay with RA motor/turbo & 5spd from (I presume Evo X GSR) nothing is hooked up electrically nor was it running at the time.
(This could just be prototype kinda thing or customer request. idk if it is a WORKS GTS/RA AWD 5spd build)
I have pics somewhere... (Remind me of a UFO sighting or something)
No its a unicorn.
This is correct.
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It was RRM (they do work on non-factory-turbo lancers, including turbo kits for GTS).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbIEEm7wa6Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbIEEm7wa6Y
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sooo what you guys are saying it IS possible to throw a gsr 5 speed in a 2011 ralliart? sorry i dont really know too much about this, and reading through this was a lot of stuff to compute lol. how much would a swap like this cost?
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