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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 01:41 PM
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Car will not start...

Switched from E85 back to RON98 fuel.
Car started fine couple days.
Last friday morning it didnt start (cold engine). Starter was running but car just not want to start up.
After estimate 10mins of trying it fired up. And worked fine whole day and saturday.No matter if engine was warm or not. Worked fine....
Saturday night it did it again. But started after couple mins.Drove it to friends yard.
Sunday i went to pick it up.And again,would not start. Tried so long that battery went out. Put it on charger.Went again yesterday and changed new spark plugs. Still had to try so long that battery went out.Today i changed main relay and switch all green relays between each other. Nothing..... Car is still standing there
Also tryed with different ROM´s. No changes.....
What i know is that car is getting fuel. Sparkplugs go wet,i smell gas when i try long,and there is also fumes coming out of exhaust.....

Today i ordered new blue relays from SSP,but it will take some time because i had to transfer money to my Paypal account.

Any idea?
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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I've had trouble starting my car a few times, and every time, it was because I had previously operated the car for a short time without letting it warm up.

For example, a couple weeks ago I started my car in the morning to move it out of the way. It was about 40deg F outside, and I didn't let the car warm up first - I just started it, moved it, and shut it off. The next day when I went to start it, I had to crank the engine over for about 30 sec before it would fire. Once it started running on it's own, it was another 30 seconds or so until the revs smoothed out and it ran normally.

My car is normally garaged at night, so I rarely run into this problem. When I do, it's because I'm out of town and have to leave my car parked outside at night. All times it's happened, the temperature has been about 40deg F or lower.
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 03:45 PM
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As far as I know startup issues on E85 are a direct result of the tune. Whoever tuned your car should be able to fix this problem.
Old Nov 8, 2011 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 2muchboost
As far as I know startup issues on E85 are a direct result of the tune. Whoever tuned your car should be able to fix this problem.
Problems started couple days after i swap back to 98RON from E85.
And problem is not on tune.
Injector´s checked,relays checked,all lines checked,spark plugs checked.
Next i will try with new fuel pump.
Sorry that i give link to other forum,but here you can read more about my problem:
http://www.clubralliart.com/showthread.php?t=2283
Old Nov 8, 2011 | 01:04 PM
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My interpretation, which I mentioned on the other site, is that this is a fuel pump problem. A faulty pump will occasionally shut off after warm-up. The cause for this is beyond my understanding, but it is one possible explanation.
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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Okay,problem was not fuel pump.
Again car started fine. But runs very rich.I idle it to warm. Then i shut it off.
Tried again,engine fired up imediatly,and again runned fine.I run car a while around garage,and got back. Shut off,but then it didnt fire up anymore.
Again i disconnect injectors harness,started it,fires up,run quickly but injector harness back,and car was running again. But of course it was having too much fuel.

So PROBLEM IS: Car is having way too much fuel.

Injectors - fine
Fuel pump - fine
Tune - definetly fine
Relays - fine
Spark plugs - fine
Spark - fine
Engine heat sensor - fine (Evoscan shows right temperatures)
Fuel regulator - checked with sucking,****ing and blowing. No big leak.But hard to say is it ok or not with that kind of testing.
Me - fine
My ***** wife - Everything is possible. Could be main problem

So this only leads for couple possible problems. Fuel regulator,first O2 sensor or Maf. I will order new regulator tomorrow.

Have to start measure fuel pressure after this,if non of those three things will not help.

So if someone has better idea/-s,im more than welcome to take those!




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