Custom 2nd Tranny Cooler Install
Apr 16, 2011 | 08:10 PM
#46
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That is the unit that AMS uses as a direct replacement for the stock cooler.
Edit: Those P/N's should be the same or almost the same as the ones used in this kit:
http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/A...ooler-Kit.html
Apr 16, 2011 | 09:36 PM
#47
so the $200 cooler the OP is using as a secondary cooler could be used as a replacement? not sure the efficientcy difference between the $200 mishimoto unit and the $530 ams unit
Personally i'd rather save $330 get the mishimoto and custom mount it as a primary cooler
Personally i'd rather save $330 get the mishimoto and custom mount it as a primary cooler
Apr 20, 2011 | 08:20 PM
#48
If anyone is interested, I am almost 100% positive that the P/N for the AMS transmission cooler is Derale 15850:
And the thermostat is Derale 16759:
Both can be found on SummitRacing.com and JEGS.com.
I am pretty sure that AMS would rape me in the ******* if I put together a bracket to mount that bad boy. However, I will be doing that for my personal Ralliart. I predict that the price of the whole thing would be $350 (a solid $200 less than the AMS unit). Granted, that will include a thermostat that is not offered with the AMS unit (as far as I know).
I would recommend to the good people of AMS to start including the thermostat with the actual fan-aided cooler. It is almost useless without it. I believe that Derale sells a fan that can be mounted to a regular cooler to create a setup with 80% of the capacity of the upgrade for 1/4 the cost.
The aftermarket cooler does have a lot more capacity than the stock unit, and I believe that it is a plate-design as opposed to a fin and tube design. Much more efficient.
And the thermostat is Derale 16759:
Both can be found on SummitRacing.com and JEGS.com.
I am pretty sure that AMS would rape me in the ******* if I put together a bracket to mount that bad boy. However, I will be doing that for my personal Ralliart. I predict that the price of the whole thing would be $350 (a solid $200 less than the AMS unit). Granted, that will include a thermostat that is not offered with the AMS unit (as far as I know).
I would recommend to the good people of AMS to start including the thermostat with the actual fan-aided cooler. It is almost useless without it. I believe that Derale sells a fan that can be mounted to a regular cooler to create a setup with 80% of the capacity of the upgrade for 1/4 the cost.
The aftermarket cooler does have a lot more capacity than the stock unit, and I believe that it is a plate-design as opposed to a fin and tube design. Much more efficient.
Apr 21, 2011 | 03:58 AM
#50
This 5.5" fan is the one I bought: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-S...44929853561367
It's a bit smaller than the cooler, so I'm guessing the actual dimensions are around 6.5-7" squared. This setup allows me to use those easy-mount things that pass through the fins though; makes installing much easier. Until I get a temp gauge in this thing, I really can't say if it's helping or not, though. lol.
It's a bit smaller than the cooler, so I'm guessing the actual dimensions are around 6.5-7" squared. This setup allows me to use those easy-mount things that pass through the fins though; makes installing much easier. Until I get a temp gauge in this thing, I really can't say if it's helping or not, though. lol.
Apr 24, 2011 | 12:57 PM
#51
Code:
DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="SST Transmission Temp" LogReference="SST_TM_Temp" RequestID="CAN28-0" Eval="x-50" Unit="C" MetricEval="x-50" MetricUnit="Deg C" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="1000" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="1000" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
Apr 24, 2011 | 03:50 PM
#52
You can log trans temp with Evoscan via CAN28-0:
Code:
DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="SST Transmission Temp" LogReference="SST_TM_Temp" RequestID="CAN28-0" Eval="x-50" Unit="C" MetricEval="x-50" MetricUnit="Deg C" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="1000" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="1000" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
Jun 27, 2011 | 05:32 PM
#54
guys i need help finding the tranny oil lines....
All i'm finding is the tranny coolant lines
('08 2.0 cvt tip-tronic)
I'm interested in installing the mishimoto tranny cooler...any info i'm grateful for
All i'm finding is the tranny coolant lines
('08 2.0 cvt tip-tronic)
I'm interested in installing the mishimoto tranny cooler...any info i'm grateful for
Jun 27, 2011 | 08:09 PM
#56
There is only one set of hoses coming off of the transmission to a small radiator-looking thing, there's only 1 fluid running through that transmission. Those are the lines you need to hook up to your new cooler, just remember that this will modify the overall capacity of the system and you will need to add some fluid to compensate.
Jun 28, 2011 | 03:55 AM
#57
As mentioned, transmissions are different, but in regards to your question you're talking about the same thing.
There is only one set of hoses coming off of the transmission to a small radiator-looking thing, there's only 1 fluid running through that transmission. Those are the lines you need to hook up to your new cooler, just remember that this will modify the overall capacity of the system and you will need to add some fluid to compensate.
There is only one set of hoses coming off of the transmission to a small radiator-looking thing, there's only 1 fluid running through that transmission. Those are the lines you need to hook up to your new cooler, just remember that this will modify the overall capacity of the system and you will need to add some fluid to compensate.
chi-town mine didnt come with the oem tranny cooler i took apart the intake box took out the battery and searched for the oil lines but every looked at carries coolant...when it get home later i'll post pics and u guys could direct me from there..
Btw i'm from Trinidad and Tobago
Jun 28, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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A bit of an update:
5K miles, 2 oil changes, and 1 track day (soon to be 2) later, all is well.
This guy has worked out exactly as I had intended it to, as a secondary cooler. Hot days in traffic, the car starts running really hot sitting on the freeway, turn on the fan
5 20-min runs for a track day, never once got a slow down warning (which I had managed to do once a while ago during a canyon drive, which is nowhere near as hard on the car as a track day is). Just left the car running for 5 mins (as you would to cool the oil down anyways) with the fan on, and I didn't have to worry about the tranny over heating. Plus having those thick cooler lines right in the front of the nose pretty much ensures that massive amounts of heat are being pulled OUT of the coolant (just as was my intention
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Now I need to create one on the other side for the oil....
5K miles, 2 oil changes, and 1 track day (soon to be 2) later, all is well.
This guy has worked out exactly as I had intended it to, as a secondary cooler. Hot days in traffic, the car starts running really hot sitting on the freeway, turn on the fan
5 20-min runs for a track day, never once got a slow down warning (which I had managed to do once a while ago during a canyon drive, which is nowhere near as hard on the car as a track day is). Just left the car running for 5 mins (as you would to cool the oil down anyways) with the fan on, and I didn't have to worry about the tranny over heating. Plus having those thick cooler lines right in the front of the nose pretty much ensures that massive amounts of heat are being pulled OUT of the coolant (just as was my intention
)Now I need to create one on the other side for the oil....
Jun 28, 2011 | 03:06 PM
#59
Good to hear man. Still running without a secondary pump setup too?
In terms of the engine oil cooler, that part has me a little stumped as to what I want to do myself. The trans cooler lines are clamped in place, which would lead me to believe that a simple extension with standard hoses, clamps, and fittings to the Mishimoto cooler is no big deal, however, the OEM engine oil cooler is equipped with banjo fittings on both ends of both lines, which leads me to believe that a clamped hose runs the possibility of popping off.
This is the only thing preventing me from installing an aftermarket cooler as of yet. I have the stock lines from an EvoX and have considered cutting the hoses before the fitting at the cooler side and just using barb fittings and hose clamps, but that worries me, like I said before. I could maybe match up the bolt sizing for the OEM banjo fittings to an aftermarket cooler and run it the right way, but I honestly don't have the time to be putzing around with different coolers and figuring something out.
Any input in that direction, from anybody, would be great help!
In terms of the engine oil cooler, that part has me a little stumped as to what I want to do myself. The trans cooler lines are clamped in place, which would lead me to believe that a simple extension with standard hoses, clamps, and fittings to the Mishimoto cooler is no big deal, however, the OEM engine oil cooler is equipped with banjo fittings on both ends of both lines, which leads me to believe that a clamped hose runs the possibility of popping off.
This is the only thing preventing me from installing an aftermarket cooler as of yet. I have the stock lines from an EvoX and have considered cutting the hoses before the fitting at the cooler side and just using barb fittings and hose clamps, but that worries me, like I said before. I could maybe match up the bolt sizing for the OEM banjo fittings to an aftermarket cooler and run it the right way, but I honestly don't have the time to be putzing around with different coolers and figuring something out.
Any input in that direction, from anybody, would be great help!
Jun 28, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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I'm planning on putting together a little kit, something like this:
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/c.../OilCoolerKits
And yes, no secondary pump. After talking with a couple others using a dual cooler set-up on the same stock pump, and no issues after nearly 10K miles (one them being VERY HARD miles ;p), I decide to stick with my set-up.
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/c.../OilCoolerKits
And yes, no secondary pump. After talking with a couple others using a dual cooler set-up on the same stock pump, and no issues after nearly 10K miles (one them being VERY HARD miles ;p), I decide to stick with my set-up.