slyman

Any luck today? How did it come out?

baggelis

got everything together and started tuning it had some trouble with the tranny torque limiters kicking in and putting the car in limp mode so we turned it down to 247/240 for now and im going in tomorrow afternoon to finish it up they found out how to turn those limiters off so we ll be able to fully tune it tomorrow the highest number we got today were 273/270 but we turned it down a bit for now just to be safe until tomorrow

updated first post

baggelis

went back for some more tuning tonight still having trouble figuring out some things though as of now the cars at 237/260

RazorLab

iTrader: (8)

What issues are you having?

baggelis

no matter how much we tried to adjust the timing it wont listen it stays the same

RazorLab

iTrader: (8)

Upper/lower bound timing maps

baggelis

i was told we need the rom id and we tried setting the timing at 5* peak torque and it stayed at -1 no matter what

Jack_of_Trades

iTrader: (17)

Bryan, do you have a decent definition file for the 55590007? I read up on the upper/lowerbound tables (I haven't found the tables for this rom yet though) but I didn't think it would matter since I was making adjustments between the two limits. This is my first SST vehicle so I wasn't sure if there was a setting affecting the timing values. I disabled the limiters already but with the timing limitations I left it at 260whp/240wtq for now until I could get more info.

Any info would be greatly appreciated since you are the 'RA Guy' these days lol.

RazorLab

iTrader: (8)

Yup, 240 load at 3000 rpm is bound to -1* by the Upper Bound Timing table, same with 260 load at 3500rpm.

<table name="Upper Bound Ignition Timing" address="608e9" category="Timing" type="3D" level="2" swapxy="true" scaling="Timing">
<table name="Load" address="611a6" type="X Axis" elements="22" scaling="Load"/>
<table name="RPM" address="61172" type="Y Axis" elements="23" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

<table name="Lower Bound Ignition Timing" address="507a5" category="Timing" type="3D" level="2" swapxy="true" scaling="Min timing">
<table name="Load" address="615a0" type="X Axis" elements="21" scaling="Load"/>
<table name="RPM" address="61554" type="Y Axis" elements="16" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

If the RA is running the Evo X turbo, you will most likely want to run the Evo X VE values as well.

Jack_of_Trades

iTrader: (17)

Wow, I guess the RA has insane upper bound limits! I owe you one, thanks bud.

RazorLab

iTrader: (8)

Remember the Lower Bound is the lowest the timing will run. So if you have a 19* in there and a 14* in the regular timing table, it will run the 19*.

Just keep that in mind also.

The lower bound is also used on SST shifts. I usually set it to 2* lower then the timing table. If you set it too low it will boost spike in between shifts.

Jack_of_Trades

iTrader: (17)

Yeah, I understood how the upper/lower limits worked but I didn't realize the limits were so drastic compared to the Evo x. Thanks for the shifting tip

RazorLab

iTrader: (8)

Yup, the VE tables are much different too. I would use the Evo 10 values if you are on a larger turbo / intake.

You will most likely need to run lower boost in 1st and 2nd as well, as the RA has lower limits there too.

baggelis

thanks alot for the info bryan hopefully we wont have anymore issues and we ll be able to release all the power we can out of it

Jack_of_Trades

iTrader: (17)

He is on a MBC, so you recommend ECU controlled boost on the SST's?