R/TErnie's Evo 9 2.2L 4G64 EFR7670
May 25, 2012, 03:40 AM
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Eric your idea for the battery and location matches mine- you could quite easily take the cooling route I discussed with you and remove your oil cooler too.
Are you guard/fender ideas similar to what Chad has done for me and on his T/A car?
Are you guard/fender ideas similar to what Chad has done for me and on his T/A car?
May 25, 2012, 11:24 AM
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Not yet. I know they suck when I'm on track, but I like them soo much that I'll have a hard time parting ways with them even though they're super heavy. Maybe when I get some extra cash I'll pickup a Racetech seat for it, but for the time being I'll slop around inside the car like always.
justincase,
I don't know what chad did for fender well stuff on your car or on his T/A car. do you have a link to show me what you're talking about? I could relocate the oil cooler, but I just wasted several cubic hours of time mounting the oil cooler where I did. I might be able to mount it waaay back in the car, but that might be a boatload of extra oil capacity that I don't need.
Lexus01IS,
Yes it's been a while since I've posted on Honda-tech. Maybe I'll come back there and have some fun. For the time being I spend too much time on Evom, to find another forum to frequent!
Thanks zertek2k!
I'm a bit frustrated with the FMM right now. I'm going to give it a break and relax this weekend. The FMM is going well, it's just not EXACTLY how I planned it. Which makes me want to do it again... but I don't want to buy the materials and do it again. I want to drive my car. So I'll be sure to post up the pictures that I've taken along the way.
justincase,
I don't know what chad did for fender well stuff on your car or on his T/A car. do you have a link to show me what you're talking about? I could relocate the oil cooler, but I just wasted several cubic hours of time mounting the oil cooler where I did. I might be able to mount it waaay back in the car, but that might be a boatload of extra oil capacity that I don't need.
Lexus01IS,
Yes it's been a while since I've posted on Honda-tech. Maybe I'll come back there and have some fun. For the time being I spend too much time on Evom, to find another forum to frequent!
Thanks zertek2k!
I'm a bit frustrated with the FMM right now. I'm going to give it a break and relax this weekend. The FMM is going well, it's just not EXACTLY how I planned it. Which makes me want to do it again... but I don't want to buy the materials and do it again. I want to drive my car. So I'll be sure to post up the pictures that I've taken along the way.
May 26, 2012, 03:23 AM
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Like this Eric. I have to keep stock fenders for Clubsprint catergory at WTAC and ADR road rules means no carbon or glass fenders.
Chad's ideas were this, little bit more modified from the ones on his T/A car.
As to removing yes removing the oil cooler as Andrew Brilliant has suggested and I am doing on my car, delete the air oil cooler, remove heater box insert laminova heat exchanger in heater box's place cool oil increase aero.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ound-shop.html
Like this Eric. I have to keep stock fenders for Clubsprint catergory at WTAC and ADR road rules means no carbon or glass fenders.
Chad's ideas were this, little bit more modified from the ones on his T/A car.
As to removing yes removing the oil cooler as Andrew Brilliant has suggested and I am doing on my car, delete the air oil cooler, remove heater box insert laminova heat exchanger in heater box's place cool oil increase aero.
May 27, 2012, 11:20 PM
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I just read this entire thread start to finish. It was posted over on the .org
This thread was worthy of my first post here in 2 years.
Great job man! Glad to see you are still doing amazing work.
This thread was worthy of my first post here in 2 years.
Great job man! Glad to see you are still doing amazing work.
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May 30, 2012, 05:39 AM
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there's so much awesome in this thread its ridiculous. how did you measure the turbine for modeling? its a real complex shape and i can't imagine calipers working real well. is it a guesstimate or did you use a machine?
May 30, 2012, 09:03 PM
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Like this Eric. I have to keep stock fenders for Clubsprint catergory at WTAC and ADR road rules means no carbon or glass fenders.
Chad's ideas were this, little bit more modified from the ones on his T/A car.
As to removing yes removing the oil cooler as Andrew Brilliant has suggested and I am doing on my car, delete the air oil cooler, remove heater box insert laminova heat exchanger in heater box's place cool oil increase aero.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ound-shop.html
Like this Eric. I have to keep stock fenders for Clubsprint catergory at WTAC and ADR road rules means no carbon or glass fenders.
Chad's ideas were this, little bit more modified from the ones on his T/A car.
As to removing yes removing the oil cooler as Andrew Brilliant has suggested and I am doing on my car, delete the air oil cooler, remove heater box insert laminova heat exchanger in heater box's place cool oil increase aero.
Very very very cool idea for the heater core. that will be on next winter's project list. very cool.
ACRucrazy!
Long time no see. I still have a 1st gen. It needs 3 wheel bearings, the sunroof fixed, and a passenger side door lock switch. I'll be putting in a new clutch, rebuilding the gear box with an OBX diff, decking the head .040", porting the head, and putting on a .023" cometic head gasket. Hoping for 190whp NA. I figure I'll keep it NA for the time being and save me some money. Thanks for the compliments. I ran across some old pictures of my fab work from the first few months I was doing it... lol I've definitely come a long way. I'll be making some neon parts again here pretty soon. I figured I'd make a DOHC, SOHC, and SOHC Magnum turbo manifold... I don't know that there are any nice sohc manifolds out there and if I made 1... I figure that I could find someone who would be interested.
Mario101,
I used calipers. I measured lots and lots of reference geometry, but in the end the turbine wheel is not exact, but pretty close. I made a grid on the wheel... distance in from the tip and distance from the Superback...and took measurements where the wheel was in reference. Yes it took a while. But it was completely modeled. I could've used a Leica laser metrology tracker to do it, but meh.
May 30, 2012, 10:19 PM
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May 30th Update
I haven't worked on the car since last Friday. I had a great weekend with my wife and family and got back to it today at around 1PM. After a Dentist apt cleaning which ended up costing me 150 bucks I got to work on the car again.
What a motor mount looks like before it's made.
6061 Aluminum sheet.
Sawzalled aluminum. Almost better than a shear
Looks to be about the right size. Marked to be bent.
Bent 1 way...
Bent the other way with my home-made brake.
Bam. CNC bent lol
Using a square to mark it for trimming.
Making sure the holes are square to the flange... and center punch
chucked it up in my mill...
And 2 holes existed.
The part got shorter... This is what a hand file leaves for a finish (I mean laser cut aluminum plate right?)
One of many test fits.
Motor mount mocked up
Width of motor mount.
Another trimming session required.
Test fit... much better.
Front Subframe brace.
Found a long hex nut that was black oxide coated. Perfect for welding.
And done... welded in place. Took some eye balling to make this square to the car and level with the horizon. I have good eye *****.
Front motor mount installed with front subframe brace.
I do some sawzalling, drilling, and welding...
Test fitting.. I'll be adding some additional cross supports for the aluminum mount. I've test fit this part maybe 20 times. I'm through looking at it. Now comes the LICP...which is being held up by the radiator. I need to make sure the LICP clears the Radiator, but I don't know what kind of space it will be occupying, so I need to wait so that I can fit the LICP the best through this tight cramped space. The mount will also get some corners rounded and some extra material removed to help it be more low profile.
UPPER RADIATOR HOSE
You may have noticed the hose floating around in the engine bay. I did some thinking and dropped some extra money on a Burn Stainless aluminum u-bend so I can weld an upper radiator tube with hose on each end. I might use a 45 on each end so i can use less tube... who knows. I'll cross that bridge when I get there. For now...I have the tubing!
BATTERY KILL/ RELOCATE
I figured out where I'm going to put the solid state kill switch unit from T1. The E85 sensor and it would like to occupy the same space. So I basically did that. Once I get through some wiring this will look a lot more civilized. For now it looks terrible. Makes me go all OCD and freak out when I look at it. This will wire very easily into the OEM wiring connectors and give me a good location to route into the fender and down the driver's side of the cabin to the trunk.
The tiny little badass switch that I can hide in the rear of the car. I have a great idea for this. Very exciting!
Battery mounting solution, breaker, Taylor terminals, color coded shrink wrap... Just started working on this.
FUEL LINES
I have determined that my full blown double pumper is leaking.... after jacking the car up...fuel leaked or should I say POURED out the top of the tank. So it's not sealing. Time to take it apart again and make it more compact. I hate this thing. Picture is worth a thousand words.
Someone got some 3.5" x .042" Titanium Tubing! Thanks Titanium Joe! Get your 3", 3.5", and 4" Titanium exhaust components from www.titaniumjoe.com
Tubing I have in the garage, just in case or left over from projects.
Here we have the .375'' X .035" Stainless Tubing for the ACD hardlines. I'll use a tube and nut AN to plumb that. You'll see some of the required AN unions in a few pictures.
Also here is the 1/8" Ti rod I'll be using for spring tabs to hold the exhaust together. Rather than using flanges I'll use a slip connector with spring tangs. Burns Stainless style.
Also here is the Ti tubing for the hangers. I went with tube and not SOLID Ti, for the obvious reasons. It's a helluva lot lighter and cheaper too!
Almost out of Argon.
Fluids ready to go!
Anplumbing.com coming through with another round of fittings.
The start of another intake manifold for my neon. I'll port the crap out of this one to match my soon to be ported cylinder head on the 2.4L Neon. This one I'll separate the coolant neck too.
Here's some wine my Grandfather gave my wife and I when we were down visiting this weekend. He made it... with the grapes that he grew. Pretty badass! He's been making wine and growing grapes since 1969. Label is Boo's Brothers. My grandma's name is Betty "Boo" ... thus Boo's brothers. The guys on the label are my Grandpa's good friends and help with Harvest and of course the consumption! Good stuff!
Car parts in the house...
Evo in the garage. Still on Jackstands. I told a bunch of people it would be done by May... I've only got tomorrow left...and then I'm late.
I'm excited to fire the car. It's getting closer and closer. Thank you all for the comments and compliments.
I haven't worked on the car since last Friday. I had a great weekend with my wife and family and got back to it today at around 1PM. After a Dentist apt cleaning which ended up costing me 150 bucks I got to work on the car again.
What a motor mount looks like before it's made.
6061 Aluminum sheet.
Sawzalled aluminum. Almost better than a shear
Looks to be about the right size. Marked to be bent.
Bent 1 way...
Bent the other way with my home-made brake.
Bam. CNC bent lol
Using a square to mark it for trimming.
Making sure the holes are square to the flange... and center punch
chucked it up in my mill...
And 2 holes existed.
The part got shorter... This is what a hand file leaves for a finish (I mean laser cut aluminum plate right?)
One of many test fits.
Motor mount mocked up
Width of motor mount.
Another trimming session required.
Test fit... much better.
Front Subframe brace.
Found a long hex nut that was black oxide coated. Perfect for welding.
And done... welded in place. Took some eye balling to make this square to the car and level with the horizon. I have good eye *****.
Front motor mount installed with front subframe brace.
I do some sawzalling, drilling, and welding...
Test fitting.. I'll be adding some additional cross supports for the aluminum mount. I've test fit this part maybe 20 times. I'm through looking at it. Now comes the LICP...which is being held up by the radiator. I need to make sure the LICP clears the Radiator, but I don't know what kind of space it will be occupying, so I need to wait so that I can fit the LICP the best through this tight cramped space. The mount will also get some corners rounded and some extra material removed to help it be more low profile.
UPPER RADIATOR HOSE
You may have noticed the hose floating around in the engine bay. I did some thinking and dropped some extra money on a Burn Stainless aluminum u-bend so I can weld an upper radiator tube with hose on each end. I might use a 45 on each end so i can use less tube... who knows. I'll cross that bridge when I get there. For now...I have the tubing!
BATTERY KILL/ RELOCATE
I figured out where I'm going to put the solid state kill switch unit from T1. The E85 sensor and it would like to occupy the same space. So I basically did that. Once I get through some wiring this will look a lot more civilized. For now it looks terrible. Makes me go all OCD and freak out when I look at it. This will wire very easily into the OEM wiring connectors and give me a good location to route into the fender and down the driver's side of the cabin to the trunk.
The tiny little badass switch that I can hide in the rear of the car. I have a great idea for this. Very exciting!
Battery mounting solution, breaker, Taylor terminals, color coded shrink wrap... Just started working on this.
FUEL LINES
I have determined that my full blown double pumper is leaking.... after jacking the car up...fuel leaked or should I say POURED out the top of the tank. So it's not sealing. Time to take it apart again and make it more compact. I hate this thing. Picture is worth a thousand words.
Someone got some 3.5" x .042" Titanium Tubing! Thanks Titanium Joe! Get your 3", 3.5", and 4" Titanium exhaust components from www.titaniumjoe.com
Tubing I have in the garage, just in case or left over from projects.
Here we have the .375'' X .035" Stainless Tubing for the ACD hardlines. I'll use a tube and nut AN to plumb that. You'll see some of the required AN unions in a few pictures.
Also here is the 1/8" Ti rod I'll be using for spring tabs to hold the exhaust together. Rather than using flanges I'll use a slip connector with spring tangs. Burns Stainless style.
Also here is the Ti tubing for the hangers. I went with tube and not SOLID Ti, for the obvious reasons. It's a helluva lot lighter and cheaper too!
Almost out of Argon.
Fluids ready to go!
Anplumbing.com coming through with another round of fittings.
The start of another intake manifold for my neon. I'll port the crap out of this one to match my soon to be ported cylinder head on the 2.4L Neon. This one I'll separate the coolant neck too.
Here's some wine my Grandfather gave my wife and I when we were down visiting this weekend. He made it... with the grapes that he grew. Pretty badass! He's been making wine and growing grapes since 1969. Label is Boo's Brothers. My grandma's name is Betty "Boo" ... thus Boo's brothers. The guys on the label are my Grandpa's good friends and help with Harvest and of course the consumption! Good stuff!
Car parts in the house...
Evo in the garage. Still on Jackstands. I told a bunch of people it would be done by May... I've only got tomorrow left...and then I'm late.
I'm excited to fire the car. It's getting closer and closer. Thank you all for the comments and compliments.
Last edited by R/TErnie; Jun 6, 2012 at 10:14 AM.
May 31, 2012, 05:18 AM
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May 31, 2012, 06:24 AM
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Looking more awesome by the day. Question on the trunk mounted battery - don't some of the racing sanctioning bodies (NHRA, etc.) require that trunk mounted batteries be in an enclosure?
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May 31, 2012, 06:46 AM
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Nice update, I was wondering if you could do a small segment/update on vacuum lines and preventive measures for boost leaks; what to zip tie, what lines to replace (hard lines), what size lines to use etc? I know in the honda world vacuum distribution blocks are popular, but I haven't seen them used much on an evo. Any tips, advise, and information is appreciated..
I love following this build thread, and Im hoping to see you drive it to it's full potential! The car isn't even moving yet, and it's already pretty awesome.
I love following this build thread, and Im hoping to see you drive it to it's full potential! The car isn't even moving yet, and it's already pretty awesome.
