Notices
Automotosports - Illinois Automotosports is a Chicago based tuner specializing in 4G63T performance. With an in-house fabrication facility and engineers on staff, they will be bringing you the best in Lancer Evolution parts.

AMS, do I really need to reflash?, 10.5 hotside + o2 housing

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 25, 2006, 08:25 AM
  #1  
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
dp2580's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CHICAGO
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
AMS, do I really need to reflash?, 10.5 hotside + o2 housing

Im installing the 10.5 hotside and 02 housing within this week. I was wondering would I have to get my car reflashed with these new added parts? How nessecary is it? Would it be similar to the current flash that I have?

=)

Current tune and set up by AMS:


AMS STAGE 3
Plus Meth Injection

Need your help. Thanks
Old Jul 25, 2006, 08:36 AM
  #2  
Evolved Member
 
2003lancerevo8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: IL
Posts: 988
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think anytime you add parts, producing more air and more power it's always more beneficial to get a flash done. Are you going to try and turn the boost up a bit? Probably knowing you can push a bit more air into the motor. I would get a flash done but thats just me.
Old Jul 25, 2006, 08:52 AM
  #3  
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
dp2580's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CHICAGO
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
icic. would there be a problem if i were to push my car without the tune? i dont want my car to engine to blow up or something. Sorry for the newbie questions
Old Jul 25, 2006, 09:11 AM
  #4  
Evolved Member
 
2003lancerevo8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: IL
Posts: 988
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I would honestly get the flash done after installing those 2 things, there is going to be more air, I would not push the car without a tune. Call Eric to verify that but that is my suggestion. I very well could be wrong in this matter but common sense tells me to do the flash
Old Jul 25, 2006, 09:13 AM
  #5  
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
dp2580's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CHICAGO
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
icic I just called ams there book untill oct. for a reflash. I guess my only option is to wait untill then.
Old Jul 25, 2006, 09:18 AM
  #6  
Evolved Member
 
2003lancerevo8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: IL
Posts: 988
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thank god my car is almost done, hopefully there will not be a need for a reflash when I get it back.

That sucks bro, hate having a good shop around that is always busy!
Old Jul 25, 2006, 09:19 AM
  #7  
Evolved Member
 
2003lancerevo8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: IL
Posts: 988
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Go ahead and get put them in, do you have an Eugo gauge? Monitor the car with those parts in but easy on the whole beating on it thing.

what did AmS say?
Old Jul 25, 2006, 09:27 AM
  #8  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (171)
 
elhalisf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 1,216
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
no you do NOT need a reflash for those 2 parts. these are exhaust parts, and you almost never need a reflash for installing such parts. installing those parts will not allow more air in the engine, they will just lower the amount of back pressure. just think of it as less resistance to the engine.
now when you install these parts, your boost will slightly increase. so just make sure you set your boost controller slightly back.
Old Jul 25, 2006, 09:38 AM
  #9  
Evolved Member
 
2003lancerevo8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: IL
Posts: 988
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I was just thinking that if I were installing those parts, I would probably turn the boost up a bit, I just figured it would need one. But Good to know someone has the right info.
Old Jul 25, 2006, 09:42 AM
  #10  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (15)
 
Gsxtremedsm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Effingham, IL
Posts: 542
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I am doing this too and I have been talking to jarrod at buschur. He suggested a reflash just to be completely safe. I imagine you can just send AMS your ecu and they can flash it. Yes a dyno tune would be better, but anything will help.
Old Jul 25, 2006, 01:20 PM
  #11  
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
dp2580's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CHICAGO
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
so I guess the word is get it tuned. I really dont want to mess with the boost controller. Any word from AMS?
Old Jul 25, 2006, 01:23 PM
  #12  
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
dp2580's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CHICAGO
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
elhalisf

how much is slightly back?
Old Jul 25, 2006, 01:37 PM
  #13  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Turbo Meg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Rochester NH
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just back enought till your boost drops to where it was prior to the o2 and hotside install.

I installed ported Hotside, helix o2, and GT-Spec manifold and never refalshed. The car ran great. Don't worry about a reflash for exhaust parts as elhalisf stated.
Old Jul 25, 2006, 01:52 PM
  #14  
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
dp2580's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CHICAGO
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
my car peaks at 27psi then drops to 24psi. so as long as i back the boost down before redline, your saying i'll be fine.

Do I have to worry about boost creep?
Old Jul 30, 2006, 08:57 PM
  #15  
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
dp2580's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CHICAGO
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Finally i just install the 10.5 hotside with ebay o2 housing. I really dont notice the difference. The only thing I kind of notice is that the boost goes up maybe to 28 then starts to drop. Do you guys think I'll have to turn down the boost, to keep the car running safe. Or should I leave the car the way it is. Is a reflash nessecary,to notice a bigger difference. Need more help with this issue. Thanks


Quick Reply: AMS, do I really need to reflash?, 10.5 hotside + o2 housing



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:54 AM.