Mr. Cleverly's AMS 2.3L GT35r Evo 9 Dyno Charts 600+ WHP
Mar 29, 2007, 05:54 AM
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Question for AMS
Chris or Eric,
Could you one of you gentlemen, please overlay the graph with 31 lbs of boost from one with a EVO 8 with similar mods and boost?
If this is not available, can you please provide your thoughts on the MIVEC system? I would like to understand how much it helps with a set-up like this.
How much if any does it improve spool-up and mid-range torque compared to a similar set-up on a Evo 8?
I am assuming these pulls are done in 4th gear, so can you advise at what RPM the car reaches full boost.
Any insight here you can provide would be extremely helpful.
Thanks- Big Boost
Could you one of you gentlemen, please overlay the graph with 31 lbs of boost from one with a EVO 8 with similar mods and boost?
If this is not available, can you please provide your thoughts on the MIVEC system? I would like to understand how much it helps with a set-up like this.
How much if any does it improve spool-up and mid-range torque compared to a similar set-up on a Evo 8?
I am assuming these pulls are done in 4th gear, so can you advise at what RPM the car reaches full boost.
Any insight here you can provide would be extremely helpful.
Thanks- Big Boost
Mar 29, 2007, 10:59 AM
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Looking at the posted dyno chart, the pulls were done in 3rd gear.
I really fail to understand why vendors insist on posting dyno charts with MPH vs. HP/Torque, when RPM vs. HP/Torque is easier to read.
l8r)
I really fail to understand why vendors insist on posting dyno charts with MPH vs. HP/Torque, when RPM vs. HP/Torque is easier to read.
l8r)
Mar 29, 2007, 12:07 PM
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The big reason Markus is that on the big HP cars you can lose the RPM signal on the dyno and thusly get large chunks of the graph missing and a really incorrect Torque number.
Gary's Pump gas dyno had no problem with losing the tach signal on the dyno but MS109 and C16 did.
Eric
Gary's Pump gas dyno had no problem with losing the tach signal on the dyno but MS109 and C16 did.
Eric
Mar 29, 2007, 12:55 PM
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One more thing about AMS is they have actually saved me money, I came up with many different ideas and they told me this, this and this is really not nesessary... Like the 14k brake system I wanted, so I settled for something half of that...
I wanted Driveability with a 1000 hp which will never happen. This car will be able to Track all day with no worries from Motor to especailly worring about the brakes.
I think both AMS and I have learn something from this build, you future customers will benefit and that's important to me.
Back to the price, not AMS's Hugest Build but it has to be close to their top ten builds. I might be wrong. If you got 30k to spend better save way way way more.
I hope I get a free t-shirt also...
Mar 29, 2007, 01:16 PM
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Gary put it the best. His HP could of been done cheaper but like I myself would do with his budget...he didnt cut a single corner.
If there was an upgrade available, He took it. The most important thing to admire about Gary's car is that when you break it down his build is really quite simple
AMS 2.3 Long block, AMS 35R Kit, AMS VSR and supporting mods. we have a few bells and whistles done to the car to make it more friendly, handle better, Brake better and stay together under some pretty serious conditions but in the end... its a build we have done here time and time again.
I just got through sending an email to Gary and I stated in that email "If I had more money then time on my hands I would keep it a 2.3 35R car"
Having driven so many and owning one (in talon form) it really is the perfect combination.
Gary likes to say these nice things about us but in the 5 years I have been doing this.... I can honestly say no other customer has made me laugh my *** off like Mr. Cleverley. In a day flooded with 200 plus phone calls and 300 plus emails, you have NO IDEA how refreshing a good laugh can be.
Eric
If there was an upgrade available, He took it. The most important thing to admire about Gary's car is that when you break it down his build is really quite simple
AMS 2.3 Long block, AMS 35R Kit, AMS VSR and supporting mods. we have a few bells and whistles done to the car to make it more friendly, handle better, Brake better and stay together under some pretty serious conditions but in the end... its a build we have done here time and time again.
I just got through sending an email to Gary and I stated in that email "If I had more money then time on my hands I would keep it a 2.3 35R car"
Having driven so many and owning one (in talon form) it really is the perfect combination.
Gary likes to say these nice things about us but in the 5 years I have been doing this.... I can honestly say no other customer has made me laugh my *** off like Mr. Cleverley. In a day flooded with 200 plus phone calls and 300 plus emails, you have NO IDEA how refreshing a good laugh can be.
Eric
Mar 29, 2007, 01:19 PM
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The big reason Markus is that on the big HP cars you can lose the RPM signal on the dyno and thusly get large chunks of the graph missing and a really incorrect Torque number.
Gary's Pump gas dyno had no problem with losing the tach signal on the dyno but MS109 and C16 did.
Eric
Gary's Pump gas dyno had no problem with losing the tach signal on the dyno but MS109 and C16 did.
Eric
...I'll leave the technical stuff to the experts. 
l8r)
Apr 30, 2007, 09:25 PM
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soooo 3rd gear pull, 90 MPH is what RPM? could someone inlighten me cuz i know approx speed to rpm but is there a place that can translate exact? or can someone give me a couple SPEED into RPM translations?
thank U.
thank U.