Where are all the AMS 50trims????
May 14, 2007 | 01:38 PM
#31
my 50 trim 2.0 is going into ams this wednesday 5/16/2007 for a aem ems install and tune for 93 oct and 100 oct. on just 93 oct the car only dyno'd at 390 hp 320 tq. that is why i switched to the aem because it was way low on power. the first tune on the stock ecu couldn't take anymore boost or timing. hopefully the ems and 100 oct help that. i'll post the results when i get it back.
Charlie at topsetup was tellin me about your car last time i was in there, apparently it sits almost identical to mine.
I want ems bad
May 14, 2007 | 09:07 PM
#32
This may be the next evolution in Turbo kits. With a Twin scroll it'll make a world of difference. Look at how successful the Green is, VERY VERY VERY fast spool, stock like drivability, and 10 Second 1/4 mile runs. It is quite massive achievement for only $1000. I can't see myself dumping $4000 into a turbo kit anymore, I just can't.
l8r)
May 14, 2007 | 10:29 PM
#33
This may be the next evolution in Turbo kits. With a Twin scroll it'll make a world of difference. Look at how successful the Green is, VERY VERY VERY fast spool, stock like drivability, and 10 Second 1/4 mile runs. It is quite massive achievement for only $1000. I can't see myself dumping $4000 into a turbo kit anymore, I just can't.
Scorke
May 15, 2007 | 10:37 AM
#35
Very True, but you won't make 470 Foot Pounds on a 50 Trim while the Green Does. As Dave B always say, it's the power under the curve. The spoolup is superior and so is the torque it so therefore I would say that the FP Green is a superior 1/4 mile turbo Vs. a 50Trim Turbo Kit.
May 16, 2007 | 10:16 AM
#38
Very True, but you won't make 470 Foot Pounds on a 50 Trim while the Green Does. As Dave B always say, it's the power under the curve. The spoolup is superior and so is the torque it so therefore I would say that the FP Green is a superior 1/4 mile turbo Vs. a 50Trim Turbo Kit.
I made 480 ftlbs of tq with my 30R.........
The Green should get smashed by any good 50 trim setup on the street because the Green cannot flow the sort of air up top that a 50 trim can. A 50 trim will be laggier and not as torquey as a Green down low but up top it should dominate.
Scorke
May 16, 2007 | 10:21 AM
#39
50 Trim shouldn't have too much trouble.
I made 480 ftlbs of tq with my 30R.........
The Green should get smashed by any good 50 trim setup on the street because the Green cannot flow the sort of air up top that a 50 trim can. A 50 trim will be laggier and not as torquey as a Green down low but up top it should dominate.
Scorke
I made 480 ftlbs of tq with my 30R.........
The Green should get smashed by any good 50 trim setup on the street because the Green cannot flow the sort of air up top that a 50 trim can. A 50 trim will be laggier and not as torquey as a Green down low but up top it should dominate.
Scorke
May 16, 2007 | 10:21 AM
#40
Originally Posted by slow8
Mods are:
I have AMS' 50 trim w .67 a/r
2.3 L stoker
AMS VSR
Ams fuel rail w AMs 680's and walbro 255
AMS FMIC
AMS 3' tbe
hks 272's
fidanza gears
greddy type S
AMS UICP & LICP
AMS RAce Battery
Shep trans and transfer case
Exedy twin
AMS water injection
ON 93 octane and meth it put down 497 awhp 460 tq
I have AMS' 50 trim w .67 a/r
2.3 L stoker
AMS VSR
Ams fuel rail w AMs 680's and walbro 255
AMS FMIC
AMS 3' tbe
hks 272's
fidanza gears
greddy type S
AMS UICP & LICP
AMS RAce Battery
Shep trans and transfer case
Exedy twin
AMS water injection
ON 93 octane and meth it put down 497 awhp 460 tq
Also, are your sure your not just nutswining the green for some reason now because you used to be a big fan of the 50...
I can't think of a better turbo kit then the 50Trim for the stock 2.0. It is perfectly matched and does not exceed the whp limit and can get you deep into the 11's and someone with a NON BB 50Trim just ran some 10's on Pump/Meth. Very nice kit.
What I like most about it is you can run a solid 23-24PSI on it pump gas and it is SOOOOOO efficient it'll hold that boost till redline no problem and not be nearly as hot as the stock turbo.
I want one badly
What I like most about it is you can run a solid 23-24PSI on it pump gas and it is SOOOOOO efficient it'll hold that boost till redline no problem and not be nearly as hot as the stock turbo.
I want one badly
May 16, 2007 | 10:23 AM
#41
They are two different turbo's with very similar peak flow numbers.
50 lbs per minute, one that serves it up very quickly and relatively cheaply, but gets inefficient up top, one that is laggier and more costly thats much better in the upper RPM ranges...
They are similar but achieve two different goals IMHO.
Scorke
May 16, 2007 | 11:10 AM
#43
l8r)
May 16, 2007 | 11:16 AM
#44
Ludi have you seen the TQ drop off on the green's? FWIW i'd much rather have less peak tq and have it carry to redline without dropping than have a huge spike early on.
This is my main motivation for going from a 30R to a 35R, not so much the added top end HP but the added tq. Making my move I will effectively bump the entire powerband to the right, however in doing so my HP will climb to redline and TQ will carry further at the expense of response and spool, which with my 2.3 I don't mind doing.
Scorke
This is my main motivation for going from a 30R to a 35R, not so much the added top end HP but the added tq. Making my move I will effectively bump the entire powerband to the right, however in doing so my HP will climb to redline and TQ will carry further at the expense of response and spool, which with my 2.3 I don't mind doing.
Scorke
May 16, 2007 | 11:20 AM
#45
Here is a sheet of the most powerful/tqy Green to date. See the peak/drop off? That's why I am saying the 50 trim is superior if you are worried about power after 5k, vs the Green is a sick turbo down low. He loses 200 ft lbs from peak to redline and about 70whp while most built 50 trim's lose far less at the expense of revs.
My 30R made 20 more hp and 10 more ft lbs of tq at 5 psi less than what this guy used to make these numbers on his green, and was only marginally laggier.
Scorke