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Jan 7, 2008, 10:31 AM
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I think ppl are missing the point of the post. It was just to let mgnt. at AMS know
that this happened. Posting it here, they can't miss it.
Pistons are never to contact the squirters. These jets help cool piston as well as lube the wrist pin bearings. When they broke off, there went the cooling and lube. It was only a matter of time. The bearings were still tight so the crank couldn't have moved enough to cause it if it broke first.
The motor was daily driven and tracked a few times. Not drag raced. Oil/filter changed regularly.
I've had over 100K on a stock block and was tracked more so than this one.
When I pulled the motor apart at 170K after a spun bearing, the squirters were fine, as they should be.
I know being a stroker that you have to "modify" the squiter tips and its a tight fit.
My guess is that they were not modified correctly, or bent enough. like I said before, there are dents on the edge of all four skirts from where the piston came down and hit the squirters. It was not put together to begin with.
Now, If I tore it apart only to find a broken crank, It would be a different story.
Hell, I buy and will continue to buy AMS products.
that this happened. Posting it here, they can't miss it.
Pistons are never to contact the squirters. These jets help cool piston as well as lube the wrist pin bearings. When they broke off, there went the cooling and lube. It was only a matter of time. The bearings were still tight so the crank couldn't have moved enough to cause it if it broke first.
The motor was daily driven and tracked a few times. Not drag raced. Oil/filter changed regularly.
I've had over 100K on a stock block and was tracked more so than this one.
When I pulled the motor apart at 170K after a spun bearing, the squirters were fine, as they should be.
I know being a stroker that you have to "modify" the squiter tips and its a tight fit.
My guess is that they were not modified correctly, or bent enough. like I said before, there are dents on the edge of all four skirts from where the piston came down and hit the squirters. It was not put together to begin with.
Now, If I tore it apart only to find a broken crank, It would be a different story.
Hell, I buy and will continue to buy AMS products.
-Martin Musial
Jan 7, 2008, 07:11 PM
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Martin,
The pistons look skirts look great. No scuffs. The cylinder walls still have the cross hatching. The motor just smoked badly (worn rings), probably due to the lack of cooling from the tips being broken off.
The motor was bought directly from and installed by AMS, TMK, into a Galant VR4.
The squirter bases were still in place. Just the tube that sticks off of them were broken off.
There was one washer on top and one under the squirter bases. I'm pretty sure that's the stock setup. They're approx . .03125" thick (1/32").
There was no extra washer or thicker washer under the squirter base.
I have all the replacement parts. I'd like to call and ask a few questions before I reassemble this thing. Is Tim the guy to talk to?
The pistons look skirts look great. No scuffs. The cylinder walls still have the cross hatching. The motor just smoked badly (worn rings), probably due to the lack of cooling from the tips being broken off.
The motor was bought directly from and installed by AMS, TMK, into a Galant VR4.
The squirter bases were still in place. Just the tube that sticks off of them were broken off.
There was one washer on top and one under the squirter bases. I'm pretty sure that's the stock setup. They're approx . .03125" thick (1/32").
There was no extra washer or thicker washer under the squirter base.
I have all the replacement parts. I'd like to call and ask a few questions before I reassemble this thing. Is Tim the guy to talk to?
Jan 7, 2008, 09:42 PM
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EVO8emUp. Ah its a 6 bolt 2.4 crank! Now I've seen plenty of those break. Yes Tim would be the man to talk to. If he is unavailable, you could ask for myself Eric Jones.
Kins we have those in stock! Come by and pick one up!
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Jan 8, 2008, 05:30 AM
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Can you send me pics?
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What did you guys think of my anodizing option for intercoolers and piping? I didn't see a AMS reply on that one.
Jan 8, 2008, 10:10 AM
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Martin,
The pistons look skirts look great. No scuffs. The cylinder walls still have the cross hatching. The motor just smoked badly (worn rings), probably due to the lack of cooling from the tips being broken off.
The motor was bought directly from and installed by AMS, TMK, into a Galant VR4.
The squirter bases were still in place. Just the tube that sticks off of them were broken off.
There was one washer on top and one under the squirter bases. I'm pretty sure that's the stock setup. They're approx . .03125" thick (1/32").
There was no extra washer or thicker washer under the squirter base.
I have all the replacement parts. I'd like to call and ask a few questions before I reassemble this thing. Is Tim the guy to talk to?
The pistons look skirts look great. No scuffs. The cylinder walls still have the cross hatching. The motor just smoked badly (worn rings), probably due to the lack of cooling from the tips being broken off.
The motor was bought directly from and installed by AMS, TMK, into a Galant VR4.
The squirter bases were still in place. Just the tube that sticks off of them were broken off.
There was one washer on top and one under the squirter bases. I'm pretty sure that's the stock setup. They're approx . .03125" thick (1/32").
There was no extra washer or thicker washer under the squirter base.
I have all the replacement parts. I'd like to call and ask a few questions before I reassemble this thing. Is Tim the guy to talk to?
-Martin
