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Old Dec 21, 2009, 07:50 PM
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AWD Motorsports Honda S2(AP2V2) Haltech startup Video

Here is AWD Motorsports 2008 Honda S2000(AP2 V2)start up video. It's running with the Haltech Sprint 500 but retains the factory ecu for DBW, VSA, control etc.
It's a stock motor with a custom AWD turbo kit. Presently it's running on the stock returnless fuel system except for the 1000cc fuel injectors.
Tuning will begin once the custom twin in tank fuel pump setup with external regulator, using upgraded fuel feed and return lines along with a beefier clutch are installed.

VIDEO---->

ECU PICS---->





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We ended up making 507WHP/337WTQ at 17psi on 93octane.



Basic mods
Stock long block
AWD Motorsports Turbo kit
Precision 6262 Billet Turbo
TiAl 44 WG
Precision 1000cc Inj
Fuelab FPR
Twin inline Walbros
Haltech Sprint ECU

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Old Dec 24, 2009, 09:19 PM
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Nice! Any reason you didn't simply go with Hondata's new FlashPro setup for the MY06+ S2000?
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Originally Posted by sEvoIXnTurboS2k
Nice! Any reason you didn't simply go with Hondata's new FlashPro setup for the MY06+ S2000?
No reason. Just preference.
You're limited with what can be done with the Flashpro. Now if it was a K-pro then that would be a different story. Even with the K-pro setup for this model year require you to convert to some of the sensors from the earlier model and it also requires two ecu's so with the cost of all that vs with the Haltech Sprint 500 you get full standalone features at a very reasonable cost.

Here are some specs of the Haltech Sprint 500 ecu.



Engine Suitability: 1 to 8 Cylinder engines
Normally aspirated or forced induction
Load sensing by throttle position or manifold pressure (MAP Sensor)
Sequential, semi-sequential, batch or multi-point injection patterns
Distributor ignition systems or multi-coil systems

Trigger Types: Hall Effect, Optical, Inductive Magnetic Reluctor

Trigger Patterns: Single Pulse per cylinder, Multi-tooth, Bosch Motronic, Ford, GM, Honda, Mazda,
Mitsubishi, Nissan Optical, Subaru, Toyota, Volkswagen

Features: Real time programming, instant hesitation free adjustment while engine is running
Windows 2000, XP, Vista compatible software
Fully user definable 16 x 16 mapping
Tuning via Volumetric Efficiency (VE) or Injection time
Selectable onboard internal MAP sensor rated to 150kPa (up to 1.5 Bar or 22psi boost)
USB and CAN Communication Port
Custom sensor calibration allows for most factory sensors to be used
2 x User programmable outputs

ECU Fixed Outputs: 4 x Fuel Injector outputs suitable for high impedance injectors only (ie:above 8)
4 x Ignition outputs, Tacho, Thermo Fan, Fuel Pump

ECU Programmable
Outputs: 2 x User Programmable Generic Outputs
Configurable For: Air Temp Switch, Aux Fuel Pump, Battery Light, Coolant Temp Switch,
Dual Intake Valve, ECU Diagnostic Light, Engine Control Relay, Engine Running Time Switch,
Generic Duty, Ignition Bypass, Intercooler Fan, Intercooler Spray
MAP Sensor Switch, RPM Switch, Shift Light, Stall Saver
Thermo Fan, TPS Switch, Vehicle Speed Switch, Vtec

ECU Inputs: Air Temperature, Aux Rev Limiter, Coolant Temperature, Manifold Absolute Pressure,
Roadspeed, Throttle Position, O2 Sensor (Narrowband or Wideband)

Functions: CAN Communication, Decel Cu,t Gear Setup, O2 Control,
Over Boos,t Rev Limiter, Transient Throttle Enhance

Tuning Tables:
Fuel: Base Fuel, Injector Firing Angle, Overall Trim.
Ignition: Base Ignition, Crank Timing, Overall Trim

Correction Tables:
Fuel: Air Temperature Correction, Barometric Correction, Coolant Temperature Correction,
Injector Dead Time, Map Correction, Post Start Enrich, Prime Pulse Time, Wide Open Throttle,
Zero Throttle
Ignition: Air Temperature Correction, Coolant Temperature Correction, Post Start offset, Zero Throttle

Miscellaneous: Tune can be password protected in software
Small and compact design
Rugged anodized aluminum casing

Power Requirements:
Source: 8.6 to 16.5 Volts DC
Consumption: 360mA @ 12Volts DC

Physical Dimensions:
ECU Dimensions Length: 134mm (154mm with MAP nipple)
Width: 64mm
Height: 28mm

Weight:
ECU: 195g (0.43 lb)
Harness: 1020g (2.25lb)

Platinum Sprint 500
Flying loom Kit Inlcudes: Platinum Sprint ECU
Platinum Sprint Flying loom
USB Cable
Programming Software CD
Instruction Manual (on CD)
Quick Start Guide
Haltech Sticker

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Originally Posted by crispeed
No reason. Just preference.
You're limited with what can be done with the Flashpro. Now if it was a K-pro then that would be a different story. Even with the K-pro setup for this model year require you to convert to some of the sensors from the earlier model and it also requires two ecu's so with the cost of all that vs with the Haltech Sprint 500 you get full standalone features at a very reasonable cost.
Merry Christmas!

FWIW I am the OG when it comes to the MY06+ S2000. Hondata used my S2000 to develop the reflashes for the MY06+. AEM then used my S2000 to develop an intake for the MY06+. Mike @ AutoWave then used my S2000 to develop a special wiring harness which allowed the MY06+ OEM ECU to be used in conjunction with an AEM EMS. The problem with this setup is the owner loses VSA, cruise control and the check engine light will stay on. Hondata then used my S2000 to develop the first ever K-Pro for an S2000 (this version was specific for an MY06+ though). The only issue with this setup was the fact that the cruise control was inoperable. VSA worked just find and there wasn't a check engine light.

This K-Pro setup for the MY06+ requires ZERO sensor change out. The sensor change out you refer to is for the MY00-05. For an MY06+, you simply need to send the OEM ECU to Hondata for modification, take the modified OEM ECU from Hondata and the accompanying RSX ECU (which resides behind the driver's seat) and install it, install an RSX secondary 02 sensor (which allows for wideband tuning), and then have the vehicle tuned.

I apologize for wasting time on that historical data...just want the community to have the most amount of valid data available. Yes, the FlashPro from Hondata limits tuning capability, but from my initial observation there is still a great deal of tuning available. What is great about the FlashPro is the fact that the OEM ECU is left unharmed (physically) and that there shouldn't be any smog issues (from a visual standpoint). For those residing in California, the FlashPro setup is probably the best alternative as there shouldn't be any issues passing the visual inspection.
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Originally Posted by sEvoIXnTurboS2k
Merry Christmas!

FWIW I am the OG when it comes to the MY06+ S2000. Hondata used my S2000 to develop the reflashes for the MY06+. AEM then used my S2000 to develop an intake for the MY06+. Mike @ AutoWave then used my S2000 to develop a special wiring harness which allowed the MY06+ OEM ECU to be used in conjunction with an AEM EMS. The problem with this setup is the owner loses VSA, cruise control and the check engine light will stay on. Hondata then used my S2000 to develop the first ever K-Pro for an S2000 (this version was specific for an MY06+ though). The only issue with this setup was the fact that the cruise control was inoperable. VSA worked just find and there wasn't a check engine light.

This K-Pro setup for the MY06+ requires ZERO sensor change out. The sensor change out you refer to is for the MY00-05. For an MY06+, you simply need to send the OEM ECU to Hondata for modification, take the modified OEM ECU from Hondata and the accompanying RSX ECU (which resides behind the driver's seat) and install it, install an RSX secondary 02 sensor (which allows for wideband tuning), and then have the vehicle tuned.

I apologize for wasting time on that historical data...just want the community to have the most amount of valid data available. Yes, the FlashPro from Hondata limits tuning capability, but from my initial observation there is still a great deal of tuning available. What is great about the FlashPro is the fact that the OEM ECU is left unharmed (physically) and that there shouldn't be any smog issues (from a visual standpoint). For those residing in California, the FlashPro setup is probably the best alternative as there shouldn't be any issues passing the visual inspection.

You're not wasting anyone's time. If anything you got the most experience with all the different systems. Not everybody is willing to donate their car as a guinea pig for R&D.
So far we only got one code for the vtec solenoid which can be solved very easily. Actually I'm kinda surprise that it does not throw a fit like most other applications do.
We went this route mainly because all the parts were available to us. It kept cost down significantly and also in the process we gained the experience necessary to do so.
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Originally Posted by crispeed
You're not wasting anyone's time. If anything you got the most experience with all the different systems. Not everybody is willing to donate their car as a guinea pig for R&D.
So far we only got one code for the vtec solenoid which can be solved very easily. Actually I'm kinda surprise that it does not throw a fit like most other applications do.
We went this route mainly because all the parts were available to us. It kept cost down significantly and also in the process we gained the experience necessary to do so.
I was more than willing to "donate" my S2000 to R&D. I wasn't looking for handouts...I simply wanted to advance the products available for the MY06+. I ended up turning my S2000 into a full-time drag race car, gutted the crap out of it, was going to go with a Ford 9" rear, ladder bars, TH-400, etc. I invested over $50k in the car and got to the point to where I started losing interest. I ended up selling as much as I could, got the bank to refinance the auto loan as a personal loan, received the titled for the car, and then sold the chassis for a whopping $850! I was pretty desperate at the time to sell the chassis as I was moving and didn't have any storage capabilities.

Here are some pics of the car prior to the dis-assembly:





Here is the power it was making when it was last tuned:




We had some boost control issues and haulted the tuning ~7400 RPMs. Had we been able to keep the boost under 13psi (bone stock motor) we would have tuned to 9000 RPMs. As you can see for the power graphs there was still a lot left on the table horsepower wise. I never did get back to the dyno for a full tune.

Lost a lot of money on the car...and am still feeling the pain financially (still owe $22k!). Definitely won't make the same mistake with my Evo.
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Nice numbers as usual, was this on a stock head gasket?
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Originally Posted by Chris@nolimitmotors
Nice numbers as usual, was this on a stock head gasket?
Yes stock headgasket.. Top to bottom motor is bone stock..

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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
Yes stock headgasket.. Top to bottom motor is bone stock..

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Wow nice numbers
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