Road Race Header
Apr 29, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Road Race Header
okay i really hate to be the one saying this so i hope im not alone on this topic. I had purchased a fed header from road race bout 2 summers ago. I was more then exstatic when it finally made its way to my door.
Now after about 6 months down the road my car was making a wierd whistling sound almost like a turbo without the BOV. I was told by my local custom exhaust fabricater. That i had a small leak within the braided flex connection. He advised me to get a hold of Road Race and see if i can get a replacement. Needless to say road race was more then happy to send one out free of charge.
So after waitin a month and having my car sound like sh#t i finally got my replacement. Now just this past week i had the same problem i heard the whistling sound and knew exactly what it was. so this time i had no reason to go back with road race cause they failed twice already. so this time i got it fixed locally. When they cut out the flex connector the inner braiding had actually inverted itself within the pipe and had caused it to create a short blockage.the guy had informed me he has never in his career seen a braided hose fall apart like that.
now all i want to know is why i am paying hundreds of dollars on a company that has made me replace my header twice my exhaust rusted within 2 weeks and my torques screw to keep my map sensor from falling off my intake doesnt even thread in on one of them.
now this isnt a hit on roadrace because i maybe the only one to have had this problem but if there our any others out there speak up and inform others of what they might be getting themselves into and to let road race know what they can improve on.
Now after about 6 months down the road my car was making a wierd whistling sound almost like a turbo without the BOV. I was told by my local custom exhaust fabricater. That i had a small leak within the braided flex connection. He advised me to get a hold of Road Race and see if i can get a replacement. Needless to say road race was more then happy to send one out free of charge.
So after waitin a month and having my car sound like sh#t i finally got my replacement. Now just this past week i had the same problem i heard the whistling sound and knew exactly what it was. so this time i had no reason to go back with road race cause they failed twice already. so this time i got it fixed locally. When they cut out the flex connector the inner braiding had actually inverted itself within the pipe and had caused it to create a short blockage.the guy had informed me he has never in his career seen a braided hose fall apart like that.
now all i want to know is why i am paying hundreds of dollars on a company that has made me replace my header twice my exhaust rusted within 2 weeks and my torques screw to keep my map sensor from falling off my intake doesnt even thread in on one of them.
now this isnt a hit on roadrace because i maybe the only one to have had this problem but if there our any others out there speak up and inform others of what they might be getting themselves into and to let road race know what they can improve on.
Last edited by Nosmatix; Apr 29, 2009 at 08:36 PM.
Apr 29, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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That i had a small leak within the braided flex connection
Got like a whistling sound at idle, which is pissing me off and it's gotten louder since i first heard it.
haven't gotten my car checked out yet, just been so busy
gonna head to the stealership and get it check out and done under warranty.
Apr 30, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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ive stopped buying RRM stuff... their springs dont drop like the pictures they showed me... the filter broke... i had to pay for shipping.. they over charge for cambers and their quality for products arent great.. more like college or highschool shop quality...
not saying this to bash RRM.. but the the prices are way over the quality ratio.. + we have to pay foreign exchange + shipping + customs.
not saying this to bash RRM.. but the the prices are way over the quality ratio.. + we have to pay foreign exchange + shipping + customs.
Apr 30, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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RRM to the best of their ability will always give the customer benefit of the doubt.. Second they are a Local shop reaching Nationally. That is a big feat and they are still alive. The quality of any product varies, the one thing you want to know is if they are doing something about any problems. RRM has listened to feedback revised their design... from a shop that gives the Lancer community exactly what they want.... first comes with the risk that its not going to be something of the highest quality. Its the nature of the business. Alternatively you can wait for someone like Greddy or DCSport or something to come along with a header.. but as you can see RRM and a Singapore contact I have are the only ones that make headers for the Lancer.
You have really no other alternative unless you go to your local shop to make one. But I am sure you will not get the same level as quality from them vs. a company like RRM. Because they have the experience... not just with this generation of lancer but going back... Everything in life is a trade off.... but it upsets me when i see people rail against a company too hard when to be honest.. they always stand behind everything they do.
Nosmatix>>> I wasn't targeting this all at you dont worry just remembering stuff from other threads I have seen over time... RRM, Works, etc... The only thing i can say specifically RRM and companies like them are about Performance First Quality a close second.
When it comes to big shops... its generally reverse order... when you buy from RRM thats what you are paying for.
Thats not a bad thing, honestly.
You have really no other alternative unless you go to your local shop to make one. But I am sure you will not get the same level as quality from them vs. a company like RRM. Because they have the experience... not just with this generation of lancer but going back... Everything in life is a trade off.... but it upsets me when i see people rail against a company too hard when to be honest.. they always stand behind everything they do.
okay i really hate to be the one saying this so i hope im not alone on this topic. I had purchased a fed header from road race bout 2 summers ago. I was more then exstatic when it finally made its way to my door.
Now after about 6 months down the road my car was making a wierd whistling sound almost like a turbo without the BOV. I was told by my local custom exhaust fabricater. That i had a small leak within the braided flex connection. He advised me to get a hold of Road Race and see if i can get a replacement. Needless to say road race was more then happy to send one out free of charge.
So after waitin a month and having my car sound like sh#t i finally got my replacement. Now just this past week i had the same problem i heard the whistling sound and knew exactly what it was. so this time i had no reason to go back with road race cause they failed twice already. so this time i got it fixed locally. When they cut out the flex connector the inner braiding had actually inverted itself within the pipe and had caused it to create a short blockage.the guy had informed me he has never in his career seen a braided hose fall apart like that.
now all i want to know is why i am paying hundreds of dollars on a company that has made me replace my header twice my exhaust rusted within 2 weeks and my torques screw to keep my map sensor from falling off my intake doesnt even thread in on one of them.
now this isnt a hit on roadrace because i maybe the only one to have had this problem but if there our any others out there speak up and inform others of what they might be getting themselves into and to let road race know what they can improve on.
Now after about 6 months down the road my car was making a wierd whistling sound almost like a turbo without the BOV. I was told by my local custom exhaust fabricater. That i had a small leak within the braided flex connection. He advised me to get a hold of Road Race and see if i can get a replacement. Needless to say road race was more then happy to send one out free of charge.
So after waitin a month and having my car sound like sh#t i finally got my replacement. Now just this past week i had the same problem i heard the whistling sound and knew exactly what it was. so this time i had no reason to go back with road race cause they failed twice already. so this time i got it fixed locally. When they cut out the flex connector the inner braiding had actually inverted itself within the pipe and had caused it to create a short blockage.the guy had informed me he has never in his career seen a braided hose fall apart like that.
now all i want to know is why i am paying hundreds of dollars on a company that has made me replace my header twice my exhaust rusted within 2 weeks and my torques screw to keep my map sensor from falling off my intake doesnt even thread in on one of them.
now this isnt a hit on roadrace because i maybe the only one to have had this problem but if there our any others out there speak up and inform others of what they might be getting themselves into and to let road race know what they can improve on.
Nosmatix>>> I wasn't targeting this all at you dont worry just remembering stuff from other threads I have seen over time... RRM, Works, etc... The only thing i can say specifically RRM and companies like them are about Performance First Quality a close second.
When it comes to big shops... its generally reverse order... when you buy from RRM thats what you are paying for.
Thats not a bad thing, honestly.
Apr 30, 2009 | 08:07 AM
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I am not really here to defend RRM for their product... but without a company like RRM we wouldnt have some of the products we have today. Its spurs competition and causes other companies to join the battle. Intakes / Exhausts / Headers etc...
Apr 30, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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Yes you are correct in saying that rrm inspires others to join the band wagon. But i think atleast 75% of rrms sales arent based on quality of work but the nature of human impulse to be the first to have it.
in regards to redisigning there products they are not very well thought out. The only major redesign was for our SRI v2. The header is the exact same even though there are problems with them and when i called and told them my exhaust was rusted to **** and not sitting properly they told me it was due to poor install and that i should take it off and just paint over the rust.
What kind of product our they selling i think from now on im gonna wait till someone else puts there foot in the door to the lancer market. Which is a shame because i had no problems with rrm products when i had my 06 ralliart the product quality has dropped ove the past 2 years and instead of being a great product it becomes nothing more then the first product available.
If they had great workmanship on there products and designs there wouldnt be a reason for v2 products.
Let RRM figure out the bugs not the costomer that has already spent 3 times as much just to get it over the border to have it break down on them.
All this talk from me like i said is just coming from my situation this is just my way of venting persay and its more for informing then alarming others. i have the header the exhaust the sri and the pulley and the only thing that hasnt had problems was the pulley,
in regards to redisigning there products they are not very well thought out. The only major redesign was for our SRI v2. The header is the exact same even though there are problems with them and when i called and told them my exhaust was rusted to **** and not sitting properly they told me it was due to poor install and that i should take it off and just paint over the rust.
What kind of product our they selling i think from now on im gonna wait till someone else puts there foot in the door to the lancer market. Which is a shame because i had no problems with rrm products when i had my 06 ralliart the product quality has dropped ove the past 2 years and instead of being a great product it becomes nothing more then the first product available.
If they had great workmanship on there products and designs there wouldnt be a reason for v2 products.
Let RRM figure out the bugs not the costomer that has already spent 3 times as much just to get it over the border to have it break down on them.
All this talk from me like i said is just coming from my situation this is just my way of venting persay and its more for informing then alarming others. i have the header the exhaust the sri and the pulley and the only thing that hasnt had problems was the pulley,
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Apr 30, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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^You better hope it doesn't cause a leak! The V1's have done that a few times. I'm not against RRM, but now that I really look at it V2's just means the R&D was rushed the first time around. And I can tell you this and im sure you'll all agree with me, but if I spent $5000+ For a Turbo-kit Shipping and Install fees just to find out it's not compatable with my (Canadian) car... 
Apr 30, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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Yes you are correct in saying that rrm inspires others to join the band wagon. But i think atleast 75% of rrms sales arent based on quality of work but the nature of human impulse to be the first to have it.
in regards to redisigning there products they are not very well thought out. The only major redesign was for our SRI v2. The header is the exact same even though there are problems with them and when i called and told them my exhaust was rusted to **** and not sitting properly they told me it was due to poor install and that i should take it off and just paint over the rust.
What kind of product our they selling i think from now on im gonna wait till someone else puts there foot in the door to the lancer market. Which is a shame because i had no problems with rrm products when i had my 06 ralliart the product quality has dropped ove the past 2 years and instead of being a great product it becomes nothing more then the first product available.
If they had great workmanship on there products and designs there wouldnt be a reason for v2 products.
Let RRM figure out the bugs not the costomer that has already spent 3 times as much just to get it over the border to have it break down on them.
All this talk from me like i said is just coming from my situation this is just my way of venting persay and its more for informing then alarming others. i have the header the exhaust the sri and the pulley and the only thing that hasnt had problems was the pulley,
in regards to redisigning there products they are not very well thought out. The only major redesign was for our SRI v2. The header is the exact same even though there are problems with them and when i called and told them my exhaust was rusted to **** and not sitting properly they told me it was due to poor install and that i should take it off and just paint over the rust.
What kind of product our they selling i think from now on im gonna wait till someone else puts there foot in the door to the lancer market. Which is a shame because i had no problems with rrm products when i had my 06 ralliart the product quality has dropped ove the past 2 years and instead of being a great product it becomes nothing more then the first product available.
If they had great workmanship on there products and designs there wouldnt be a reason for v2 products.
Let RRM figure out the bugs not the costomer that has already spent 3 times as much just to get it over the border to have it break down on them.
All this talk from me like i said is just coming from my situation this is just my way of venting persay and its more for informing then alarming others. i have the header the exhaust the sri and the pulley and the only thing that hasnt had problems was the pulley,
Apr 30, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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Yap yap - that is the same problem i had with the first RRM header i rcvd. Same problem, flex pipe insides collapsed almost blocking the exhaust ways. RRM was quick to act though on sending me a replacement. They sent me the V2 - 2 piece like our stock header, but there is a minor drawback on this V2. On acceleration you will hear noise as if your car has an exhaust leak -micro leak between the 2 piece where the doughnut gasket is, but this only happens when you are accelerating, on stand still you want hear it. Well nothing we can do about it right? I guess we just have to wait for another player on the field.
Apr 30, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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Yap yap - that is the same problem i had with the first RRM header i rcvd. Same problem, flex pipe insides collapsed almost blocking the exhaust ways. RRM was quick to act though on sending me a replacement. They sent me the V2 - 2 piece like our stock header, but there is a minor drawback on this V2. On acceleration you will hear noise as if your car has an exhaust leak -micro leak between the 2 piece where the doughnut gasket is, but this only happens when you are accelerating, on stand still you want hear it. Well nothing we can do about it right? I guess we just have to wait for another player on the field.
Apr 30, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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No you can't if you've seen the stock header on our lancer's you would know what I mean. The two are bolted by spring loaded bolts which acts like shock absorbers/allows the slight movement between the engine and the exhaust system. If you do weld this 2 piece together sooner or later your exhaust system will break from all the vibration or the tag of war between your engine and your hanged exhaust pipes. I think that is why the internal in the RRm Header flex pipes are collapsing due to the fact that our engine keeps pulling the whole exhaust system and the flex pipe is taking all the stress -- the flex pipes stretches to the point the internals are unable to handle, so the stuffed mesh wires its made off crumbles down creating a blockade. Hmn... I think we have to much engine movement if that is the case. There is one in lancertuners.com who also had this same problem and rcvd the V2 replacement and having the same situation as I do -micro leaks. Go check it out.
May 1, 2009 | 06:16 AM
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No you can't if you've seen the stock header on our lancer's you would know what I mean. The two are bolted by spring loaded bolts which acts like shock absorbers/allows the slight movement between the engine and the exhaust system. If you do weld this 2 piece together sooner or later your exhaust system will break from all the vibration or the tag of war between your engine and your hanged exhaust pipes. I think that is why the internal in the RRm Header flex pipes are collapsing due to the fact that our engine keeps pulling the whole exhaust system and the flex pipe is taking all the stress -- the flex pipes stretches to the point the internals are unable to handle, so the stuffed mesh wires its made off crumbles down creating a blockade. Hmn... I think we have to much engine movement if that is the case. There is one in lancertuners.com who also had this same problem and rcvd the V2 replacement and having the same situation as I do -micro leaks. Go check it out.