"Evo XI" rumors, speculations, and media reports.
#91
#92
because you and some others need to understand that evos are not nor have ever been the profit maker for mitsubishi, nor the supra for toyota, nor the s2000 for honda. Profit is ruled by lancer, corolla, camry, civic, accord.
Now if you want to be SELFISH and whine "why dont they listen to what the people want" the truth is they do, and the majority (not us) prefer the major selling cars which are not the supra, evo, sti etc. These companies need to make money first (rightly so to thrive and continue) then can make niche cars.
Now if you want a car company that caters to a niche market and cares more about its niche market cars than paying its bills, well thats like a kid out of high school who prefers to pay for his cool clothes than paying his bills
Companies make niche cars because they are doing well financially and can afford a niche car for advertising purposes.
Good luck Mitsubishi on your endeavor and thanks for making my awesome evo 9 when you were able to do so
Now if you want to be SELFISH and whine "why dont they listen to what the people want" the truth is they do, and the majority (not us) prefer the major selling cars which are not the supra, evo, sti etc. These companies need to make money first (rightly so to thrive and continue) then can make niche cars.
Now if you want a car company that caters to a niche market and cares more about its niche market cars than paying its bills, well thats like a kid out of high school who prefers to pay for his cool clothes than paying his bills
Companies make niche cars because they are doing well financially and can afford a niche car for advertising purposes.
Good luck Mitsubishi on your endeavor and thanks for making my awesome evo 9 when you were able to do so
#93
I'm just saying, until the car is out people need to be more open minded and see what actually happens. If the car sucks and has major flaws, then by all means, tear it apart. But to be *****ing at this point in time is putting the cart before the horse.
#94
I don't care what YOU did. In 3 years, every Evo IX owner will be driving an 8 year old car. I hope you'd have enough money by then to buy another car, Evo or not.
#95
#97
My 5 cents
The same way the proper Evo's were not money makers why would this sissy piece of snot portrayed as the Evo XI be a money maker ?
Also the reason Evos were not money makers was because of Mitsubishi's typical half assed paradigm. When the Evo was at its peak winning rallies all over the world ( they won 5 of 9 WRC events in 1996 plus in Group N Trelles or Stohl would get the class win too), they insisted on only building 12 500 annually for the JDM.
See separate story: 1996 WRC :Half Assed Rally team wins Driver's Championship but not Manufacturer's Championship because they fielded one car in some events when Subaru was entering 2 or 3, and points for 2nd, 3rd and 4th >>>> 1st place points.
Guys I know who bought brand new Evo 4's went to all kinds of extremes to get their hands on them because Mitsubishi kept repeating the same dumb line " There are no Lancer Evolutions available for export."
Given that Subaru was selling the Impreza WRX outside of Japan, and Ford was selling their Escort Cosworth the only reason Mitsubishi was not making money off the Evo was their own doing (incompetent marketing), given the demand. This is especially true, for the models before the Evo 4 that used the same production line as the other Lancers.
They have the other cars to be money makers already.
Which niche wants a performance Prius exactly ?
The diesel engine will not be innovative given that in 1986 there were diesel powered Lancers.
I bought a 2006 Lancer Ralliart new because it was what I could afford then.
All the while I have been moving ahead and will be seeking to have a dedicated toy in 2013. It was to be a new Evo, the car I have been aspiring to since I was 17 when I first saw an Evo II up close in a parking lot, then later that day ripping through special stages in a rally.
I guess the niche I fall into will be ignored, so I will spend the 30K down payment I have been diligently stashing away at one of their competitor's dealerships or throw it into my RSP or mortgage because Mitsu does not want my money if they release this embarrassment and call it an Evo.
Also the reason Evos were not money makers was because of Mitsubishi's typical half assed paradigm. When the Evo was at its peak winning rallies all over the world ( they won 5 of 9 WRC events in 1996 plus in Group N Trelles or Stohl would get the class win too), they insisted on only building 12 500 annually for the JDM.
See separate story: 1996 WRC :Half Assed Rally team wins Driver's Championship but not Manufacturer's Championship because they fielded one car in some events when Subaru was entering 2 or 3, and points for 2nd, 3rd and 4th >>>> 1st place points.
Guys I know who bought brand new Evo 4's went to all kinds of extremes to get their hands on them because Mitsubishi kept repeating the same dumb line " There are no Lancer Evolutions available for export."
Given that Subaru was selling the Impreza WRX outside of Japan, and Ford was selling their Escort Cosworth the only reason Mitsubishi was not making money off the Evo was their own doing (incompetent marketing), given the demand. This is especially true, for the models before the Evo 4 that used the same production line as the other Lancers.
They have the other cars to be money makers already.
Which niche wants a performance Prius exactly ?
The diesel engine will not be innovative given that in 1986 there were diesel powered Lancers.
I bought a 2006 Lancer Ralliart new because it was what I could afford then.
All the while I have been moving ahead and will be seeking to have a dedicated toy in 2013. It was to be a new Evo, the car I have been aspiring to since I was 17 when I first saw an Evo II up close in a parking lot, then later that day ripping through special stages in a rally.
I guess the niche I fall into will be ignored, so I will spend the 30K down payment I have been diligently stashing away at one of their competitor's dealerships or throw it into my RSP or mortgage because Mitsu does not want my money if they release this embarrassment and call it an Evo.
#100
Personally, I can't wait. It is a while though, so I will probably buy an X in the meantime to go along with the wife's IX, but I don't see why you guys are so bent out of shape about the change in platform. If you were really gearheads, you would be basing it on performance...not what kind of engine it does or does not have.
All I know is if it's close to the initial estimates of 350hp and 35+MPG, I don't really see how any of you can complain.
All I know is if it's close to the initial estimates of 350hp and 35+MPG, I don't really see how any of you can complain.
#102
Yup
The same way the proper Evo's were not money makers why would this sissy piece of snot portrayed as the Evo XI be a money maker ?
Also the reason Evos were not money makers was because of Mitsubishi's typical half assed paradigm. When the Evo was at its peak winning rallies all over the world ( they won 5 of 9 WRC events in 1996 plus in Group N Trelles or Stohl would get the class win too), they insisted on only building 12 500 annually for the JDM.
See separate story: 1996 WRC :Half Assed Rally team wins Driver's Championship but not Manufacturer's Championship because they fielded one car in some events when Subaru was entering 2 or 3, and points for 2nd, 3rd and 4th >>>> 1st place points.
Guys I know who bought brand new Evo 4's went to all kinds of extremes to get their hands on them because Mitsubishi kept repeating the same dumb line " There are no Lancer Evolutions available for export."
Given that Subaru was selling the Impreza WRX outside of Japan, and Ford was selling their Escort Cosworth the only reason Mitsubishi was not making money off the Evo was their own doing (incompetent marketing), given the demand. This is especially true, for the models before the Evo 4 that used the same production line as the other Lancers.
They have the other cars to be money makers already.
Which niche wants a performance Prius exactly ?
The diesel engine will not be innovative given that in 1986 there were diesel powered Lancers.
I bought a 2006 Lancer Ralliart new because it was what I could afford then.
All the while I have been moving ahead and will be seeking to have a dedicated toy in 2013. It was to be a new Evo, the car I have been aspiring to since I was 17 when I first saw an Evo II up close in a parking lot, then later that day ripping through special stages in a rally.
I guess the niche I fall into will be ignored, so I will spend the 30K down payment I have been diligently stashing away at one of their competitor's dealerships or throw it into my RSP or mortgage because Mitsu does not want my money if they release this embarrassment and call it an Evo.
Also the reason Evos were not money makers was because of Mitsubishi's typical half assed paradigm. When the Evo was at its peak winning rallies all over the world ( they won 5 of 9 WRC events in 1996 plus in Group N Trelles or Stohl would get the class win too), they insisted on only building 12 500 annually for the JDM.
See separate story: 1996 WRC :Half Assed Rally team wins Driver's Championship but not Manufacturer's Championship because they fielded one car in some events when Subaru was entering 2 or 3, and points for 2nd, 3rd and 4th >>>> 1st place points.
Guys I know who bought brand new Evo 4's went to all kinds of extremes to get their hands on them because Mitsubishi kept repeating the same dumb line " There are no Lancer Evolutions available for export."
Given that Subaru was selling the Impreza WRX outside of Japan, and Ford was selling their Escort Cosworth the only reason Mitsubishi was not making money off the Evo was their own doing (incompetent marketing), given the demand. This is especially true, for the models before the Evo 4 that used the same production line as the other Lancers.
They have the other cars to be money makers already.
Which niche wants a performance Prius exactly ?
The diesel engine will not be innovative given that in 1986 there were diesel powered Lancers.
I bought a 2006 Lancer Ralliart new because it was what I could afford then.
All the while I have been moving ahead and will be seeking to have a dedicated toy in 2013. It was to be a new Evo, the car I have been aspiring to since I was 17 when I first saw an Evo II up close in a parking lot, then later that day ripping through special stages in a rally.
I guess the niche I fall into will be ignored, so I will spend the 30K down payment I have been diligently stashing away at one of their competitor's dealerships or throw it into my RSP or mortgage because Mitsu does not want my money if they release this embarrassment and call it an Evo.
#103
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yep and even worst ,,, an electric engine with a diesel engine,,, i can take the diesel but when you throw in the hybrid thing you spooked away the mayority og the real evo fans.
every old timmer knows the evos were ruinned when they came out with the evo X
every old timmer knows the evos were ruinned when they came out with the evo X
#104
Fair enough. What kind of performance can one expect, given the battery weight needed to drive such an animal at a decent rate for, say, 200 miles and how will its dynamics respond to such a treatment? The auto industry, in general, works on a 4 year model. A car, as presented on the showroom floor, is ready 4 years before it is seen by the public. At the very least, it has to be ready 2 years before release, so there is no magic wand that will change the current state of technology in the time of its development. There's an old saying, "There's nothing that can't be fixed with money and a judicious use of explosives." Mitsubishi can certainly throw some money into the project, use composite materials, situate the power cells low in the chassis. If you're willing to pay for that, great.
Last edited by FJF; Oct 26, 2011 at 08:23 AM. Reason: typo
#105