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Old May 20, 2005, 09:04 PM
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R/T: .880
60' 1.888
330: 5.533
1/8: 8.657
MPH: 79.36
1000: 11.352
1/4: 13.645
MPH: 98.33

running about 21 PSI
launch around 5500

these #'s just dont seem to add up right. Car falls off after 3rd gear big time. I really want to break into the twelves....what else is required?

also....is there such thing as running too much boost on my stock turbo?
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Originally Posted by Sap12687
R/T: .880
60' 1.888
330: 5.533
1/8: 8.657
MPH: 79.36
1000: 11.352
1/4: 13.645
MPH: 98.33

running about 21 PSI
launch around 5500

these #'s just dont seem to add up right. Car falls off after 3rd gear big time. I really want to break into the twelves....what else is required?

also....is there such thing as running too much boost on my stock turbo?
Try putting the stock air box back on.
Old May 20, 2005, 09:30 PM
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Put the stock intake back on? Or just the airbox?
Old May 20, 2005, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sap12687
R/T: .880
60' 1.888
330: 5.533
1/8: 8.657
MPH: 79.36
1000: 11.352
1/4: 13.645
MPH: 98.33

running about 21 PSI
launch around 5500

these #'s just dont seem to add up right. Car falls off after 3rd gear big time. I really want to break into the twelves....what else is required?

also....is there such thing as running too much boost on my stock turbo?
Well, you have a poor selection of mods, so it's not surprising. All you have are the 2 mods that people keep doing first for some reason (BOV+intake) and one good mod (MBC) that has no support (exhaust!).

Did you ever run stock without the BOV and intake? People have been saying it over and over that you do NOT need to replace the intake, but if you do, you will need to get the car tuned. You have no tuning devices (s-afc/flash/standalone), so it's no surprise that you're car is performing worse than stock.

As for the MBC, that's a good mod, but you don't have much business turning up the boost when you don't have an exhaust to reduce back pressure (allow the turbo to spool more easily) nor a tuning device to make use of that extra boost (runs rich up top = knock = pulled timing = loss of power). You should have your MBC set to stock boost (18-19) and just use it to MAINTAIN full boost to redline, instead of tapering to 16 like it does in stock form. After exhaust and tuning, then turn it up to 21 if you want.

The other guy's suggestion was for you to put the entire stock intake back on and try again. I bet you will immediately do better. Then, sell the Injen and toss in a K&N filter! The BOV is useless for you until you get all the other basic bolt-ons, but unless it's VTA, it shouldn't be slowing you down.
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TBE should be one of your first mods
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Well, you have a poor selection of mods, so it's not surprising. All you have are the 2 mods that people keep doing first for some reason (BOV+intake) and one good mod (MBC) that has no support (exhaust!).

Did you ever run stock without the BOV and intake? People have been saying it over and over that you do NOT need to replace the intake, but if you do, you will need to get the car tuned. You have no tuning devices (s-afc/flash/standalone), so it's no surprise that you're car is performing worse than stock.

As for the MBC, that's a good mod, but you don't have much business turning up the boost when you don't have an exhaust to reduce back pressure (allow the turbo to spool more easily) nor a tuning device to make use of that extra boost (runs rich up top = knock = pulled timing = loss of power). You should have your MBC set to stock boost (18-19) and just use it to MAINTAIN full boost to redline, instead of tapering to 16 like it does in stock form. After exhaust and tuning, then turn it up to 21 if you want.

The other guy's suggestion was for you to put the entire stock intake back on and try again. I bet you will immediately do better. Then, sell the Injen and toss in a K&N filter! The BOV is useless for you until you get all the other basic bolt-ons, but unless it's VTA, it shouldn't be slowing you down.
I agree
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I didnt see a fuel pump in the mod list either. Something is definatley wrong - you are probably hurting your car. Get a fuel pump, TBE and a custom tune. Im sure you will break into 12's
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thanks for all the info guys....more info the better
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