Went to the track with a GT3076R. Not Happy.
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Went to the track with a GT3076R. Not Happy.
I went to the track for the 3rd time hoping to hit 12s or even a 110mph trap. Well it didnt happen. Here are my times untuned with Dynoflash for stock turbo.
10.8-11 AFRs on Alky
23psi tapering to 20psi
R/T .225
60' 1.815
330' 5.382
1/8 8.437
MPH 81.33
1000' 11.118
1/4 13.396
MPH 99.29
23psi tapering to 21psi
R/T .379
60' 2.355
330' 6.120
1/8 9.193
MPH 81.43
1000' 11.841
1/4 14.087
MPH 100.65
24psi
R/T .188
60' 1.961
330' 5.698
1/8 8.778
MPH 81.58
1000' 11.448
1/4 13.683
MPH 101.56
I think it could be a boost leak. This is my best time ever, before I got flashed and it was tuned to 11.5 AFRs and 20psi on the stock turbo with the same mods.
R/T .194
60' 1.899
330' 5.453
1/8 8.410
MPH 83.57
1000' 10.982
1/4 13.136
MPH 105.00
10.8-11 AFRs on Alky
23psi tapering to 20psi
R/T .225
60' 1.815
330' 5.382
1/8 8.437
MPH 81.33
1000' 11.118
1/4 13.396
MPH 99.29
23psi tapering to 21psi
R/T .379
60' 2.355
330' 6.120
1/8 9.193
MPH 81.43
1000' 11.841
1/4 14.087
MPH 100.65
24psi
R/T .188
60' 1.961
330' 5.698
1/8 8.778
MPH 81.58
1000' 11.448
1/4 13.683
MPH 101.56
I think it could be a boost leak. This is my best time ever, before I got flashed and it was tuned to 11.5 AFRs and 20psi on the stock turbo with the same mods.
R/T .194
60' 1.899
330' 5.453
1/8 8.410
MPH 83.57
1000' 10.982
1/4 13.136
MPH 105.00
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Well your driving is probably .5 seconds or more. Your not launching your car it seems. Your first to second shift is SLOW also. Another thing, you dont seem to have a wideband... how do you know what your AFRs truly are? My guess is that they are lower than you think. The Alchy kits progressivly spray more the higher the boost is. Therefore, depending on your settings, it may be spraying much more at higher boost than at lower boost making the AFRs in the mid 10s. You need to get a wideband and run it... see what the AFR truly is. You should also be able to run more boost than 24lbs. You should be able to run 29lbs or wherever the turbo doesnt push anymore. You have a 12 second car... its jut not tuned at all and your not driving it NEAR potential. If you could get a 1.70 60' it would drop your ET .25 or so.... then shift alot faster (Or dont let off the gas between shifts) and youll drop another .25+. If I run my car lifting off the gas I ran a 12.0... the pass directly after that one I didnt lift and ran an 11.5.
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Originally Posted by okevolutionVIII
. Here are my times untuned with Dynoflash for stock turbo.
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Im using a wideband and I cant flatshift without missing gears. The trap speeds on 24psi should have been over 115mph easily. I'm using the CoolingMist water/Alky kit that does not spray progressivly. I just wanted to keep it safe as far as boost and AFRs because I'm still on stock injectors.
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Something is up! I would look at a boost leak first. Does it bog of the line? You are making no power in the back half so even if your 3-4 shift was slow you would still have good mph. How do you know what afrs you are running? On alky and road racing afr's of 10.3-10.6 I still run 11.70's @ 118mph. I would check compression, look for a boost leak, change plugs, recheck afr's and get them to be around 11.2-11.4.
How does the afr's look when the alky kit hits? Are you running the safc-2 in tps or map. You can use a 0-5 volt map sensor and have it drive the safc, that way your are adjusting to when you alky kit hits..say 15 psi...on a 3 bar map it is about 30% throttle. That way you can truly control your afr's when the alky hits, it makes a huge diffrence how the turbo hits in the midrange and how cleanly it pulls thru the top end.
Can you log boost? See how long it takes for boost to recover after each shift! My guess is you shift, come off boost, hit the gas, alky hits to hard and slows boost recovery. What psi do you have the alky hiting at?
How does the afr's look when the alky kit hits? Are you running the safc-2 in tps or map. You can use a 0-5 volt map sensor and have it drive the safc, that way your are adjusting to when you alky kit hits..say 15 psi...on a 3 bar map it is about 30% throttle. That way you can truly control your afr's when the alky hits, it makes a huge diffrence how the turbo hits in the midrange and how cleanly it pulls thru the top end.
Can you log boost? See how long it takes for boost to recover after each shift! My guess is you shift, come off boost, hit the gas, alky hits to hard and slows boost recovery. What psi do you have the alky hiting at?
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Originally Posted by Cloud
If I had a penny for every dynoflash car with a boost leak I would be rich.
Here are my times untuned with Dynoflash for stock turbo.
Here are my times untuned with Dynoflash for stock turbo.
Here are my times untuned with Dynoflash for stock turbo.
Read it!
Hes running a GT3076R, on a car that is tuned for a stock turbo.
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Originally Posted by Jim_Patterson
Here are my times untuned with Dynoflash for stock turbo.
Here are my times untuned with Dynoflash for stock turbo.
Here are my times untuned with Dynoflash for stock turbo.
Here are my times untuned with Dynoflash for stock turbo.
Read it!
Hes running a GT3076R, on a car that is tuned for a stock turbo.
Here are my times untuned with Dynoflash for stock turbo.
Here are my times untuned with Dynoflash for stock turbo.
Here are my times untuned with Dynoflash for stock turbo.
Read it!
Hes running a GT3076R, on a car that is tuned for a stock turbo.
Show us the afr log and I bet it had a nasty dip at about 3200-3500 rpm. Right where the turbo is trying to spool it gets hit with a bit shot of alky.
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Honestly, I think it's a case of having a messed up car that was slow from the beginning and then continuing to go crazy adding mods without ever fixing the car first, and now it's just a huge disappointment with a big turbo and tons of mods. This is the example of HOW NOT to mod your car. If you are never getting close to where you should be in terms of trap speeds, then you shouldn't just keep adding mods to hopefully gain more power. This car definitely has something wrong, and it's a terrible idea to run on a big turbo with a non-progressive alky kit without being tuned for it. That's very dangerous and completely useless, imo...