Wow there sure is a lot of finger pointing going on in here. I hate how people see a comment & think it implies something that it may or may not imply & then start attacking others. Then there is retalliation & the smowball effect. Alot of this could have been avoided if the original post included the reason for the post. If he had just stated that he wanted to run a lower front aero himself & wanted to know if that would be O.K. in the eyes of those regualting the record rules (or lack ther of). This would not be cheating if it was agreed upon before hand & is actually a reasonable question to raise when talking about a "no rules" record. However to answer the question at topic. I don't think it should be allowed & I see that is now the majority.

 

Your right. One is a set of safety rules designed to protect human life and to protect the sport of drag racing, and the other is an obscure form of cheating that probably only actually happens on accident or at some backwoods non sanctioned track that doesnt follow any rules.


Can't wait to see the feature film.

"how to cheat the lights" by Buschur Racing.

 

Dave, I had not read the entire thread before posting and had no clue you had made another thread. I was on page 6 of this nonsense when I posted. I did not need to go out and test things as common sense tells you exactly what will happen. I thanked you for proving exactly what I said would happen. Unless you have a car that is sitting ON the ground and launches like crap (not transferring any weight) its going to HURT your times not make them better.

FWD cars, on the other hand, when lowered too much can mess with the timing lights and see an improvement in times. Weight is transfered and pivots downward from the front tires lowering the back of the car keeping the staging beams broken.

06MRs car did NOT lift out of the beams..... unless by some miracle the back of the car lifted up pulling the front of the car out of the pre-stage beam first and then the staged beam.

My 240sx on the other hand has NO PROBLEM lifting the front end (tires and all) over the beams.



/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ stock IRS BTW /\ /\ /\ /\ /\

 

If someone wanted to get real sneaky they could have a flap under the front of their car powered by a solenoid or linear actuator. After the launch (so as to not raise any suspicions on the line) they hit a button and it tilts the hinged flap down so it cuts the beams at the top end 3.5 feet sooner . . .

Come to think of it, 3.5 feet at 100+ mph probably is only good for a couple hundredths. . . dang it! I was hoping it could get me into the 10's!!

 

Sick Picture

 

must be Friday night

You just need some tires and you'll be there....

 

That would be funny watching on video as your at the line and you see that come down on your 1000hp EBo

 

Also, on safety and the NHRA. The rules and classes that NHRA has setup are designed to ensure your safety and the safety of the spectators. The rules also attempt to create a competitive playing field. There is a reason why certain classes are restricted to certain turbos or tire sizes, its because they don't want you going faster than the safety equipment for your class. It's not perfect but it's better than no rules at all.

David, I can certainly appreciate you not wanting a cage in your daily driver and I respect that, but I think it's equally dumb to run a 9 second chassis that doesnt have the proper safety gear. I just think of all the things that I've seen break at the track when things are pushed to the limit and then I think about my children and my family and once again the distinction is very clear. NHRA is not trying to make us slower or give us a hard time, they are just trying to protect the sport and the people that make the sport possible.

 

typical Buschur Racing MO

test, test and more test = results that work

 

You call that lifting the wheels with IRS!

This is how it's done on my side of the world!




9 sec video-->
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...RAG_142106.htm
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http://grs-motorsports.com/noticias/.../orlando/4.wmv

 

Since Ivan likes to take things off topic with his jabs and pics of his RWD IRS car, i guess you have to show him what a street car that runs 8's and lifts the wheels really looks like..

 

My car runs nearly the same times and doesnt waste all that energy lifting the front that high. It transfers it into forward motion.

Cool car though. Thanks for sharing.

 

Nearly..

Since yours transfers into forward motion and doesnt waste energy, i am curious what you run for a 60ft??

 

Just admit that you don't have enough energy or traction to lift the front wheels any higher!

 

Traction is not the issue. Lack of low RPM torque and a heavy car are my limiting factors.

My car gets it done upstairs. 162 mph trap speeds.