It seems liek you guys are forgetting that you CHOOSE to race your street cars on the track. There is no reason NHRA should have to change their rules because said decision. You either comply or you don't.

Lowering the requirements just because more cars can reach said limit is retarded. It makes it no more safe than before. If all cars ran 10s out the box, are 10s cars all of a sudden more safe to operate and crash in? No.

The argument about them allowing domestics to do things imports can't also is mute. That is the discrimination of the track. That still doesn't change anything else. Fact of the matter is these faster vehicles come with assisted braking and improved aspects that allow them to perform much more stable than these tin canned Hondas etc.

It is what it is but at the end of the day its your own choice to do so.

 

Boltz you should start an online page somewhere that people can make an online signature.

 

Pretty sure this is a "STREET CAR" too. For you to think You can survive hitting the wall at 100+ MPH in a standard car..... WOW. Accidents happen all the time. Hope you are prepared for them when they happen.

http://youtu.be/_siram8gu4E

 

Your missing the point.


-Bink

 

No Bink, that is the point of the equipment and why the rules are there, I think that post is spot on.

Tsimage's post is also a good one, if your car is that fast (9's or better) you need to have the equipment in the car.

 

I understand it's for safety.

The problem I have with it is, I go to the drag strip to be in an environment where all other distractions and possible road hazards are eliminated. The issue arises when I take my STREET car to the strip, run to fast of a time, and then have to put a roll cage in my STREET car in order to make a few passes at the drag strip once in a while? Sounds kind of ridiculous...

At that point I could go on the street and do it. All I'm saying is that they need to lower the ET which warrants a roll cage going in (not 9's, that's different. I'm talking 10.49). Otherwise, its race once and get kicked out, or race on the street, both of which are not the best options.

The way to beat it, is track rental.


-Bink

 

That's probably an 8 second RWD drag car, not a 10 second awd evo. Totally different type of vehicle going down the track.

If someone wants to run there car a few times down the track without safety equipment its about 100 times more likely they will crash or get hit on the street then crash on the track.

And to counter that if two cars collide with or without cages they are probably going to catch fire which makes getting out of with a cage harder then without.

If you guys want to cage your race cars cool.

This thread is for people who drive their cars on the street and don't want the hassle of ruining the safety of it just for some passes down the track.

 

Well said


-Bink

 

Track rentals are your friend then, as Bink said earlier.

I'll run my car on the street cage and all, it doesn't bother me one bit. I have quite a few friends that run NHRA spec cages with plenty of street time, we'll even take our kids to school in them. A GOOD designed cage will do it's job and stay out of your way, that being said I have also been in a couple cars with HORRIBLE cages that did make me think about cracking my head open while going over speedbumps. So I can see why some guys would be scared of them.

If you can't deal with the rules why build a fast car then?

 

I build a fast car, because I like to tinker and I like to go fast. If it was a race car ONLY, then I would build it to adhere to the rules.


-Bink

 

As do I, I just understand that the rules are what they are and if I want to play at the track I need to follow them. Same deal for the road course guys I'm assuming? Would you build a time attack style car without a cage?

This topic comes up in every "community" that I've been a part of so far, being around drag racing for 20+ years though might give me a little different perspective than most. Every car I've built has always had the NHRA rulebook in mind.

It has gotten stupid easy to go fast these days, however that doesn't make it "safer" to do so. When you're double, tripple or even four times as much HP over what the vehicle came with there is a trade off.

People who put time and effort into doing thier builds right makes it safer. I've seen kids at the track with 500+hp hondas running stock brakes, cut springs and cheap tires (also seen quite a few scary domestics so it doesn't seem like I'm saying hondas are the only ones). That kind of stuff is scary and thats why the rules are in place, for the guys that cobble their cars together making an unsafe mess.

The Evo is a pretty forgiving platform to go fast with, asking for the rules to be changed for them would start a massive *****ing fest! "well their rules got changed, why can't ours?! Thats BS!!!" kind of stuff. It's a can of worms NHRA most likely doesn't want to open, thus the rules stay the same for everybody.

 

Because of this rule, the only time I am able to enjoy my street car at a drag strip is at the DSM Shootout. Not many private rented events here either.

A waiver for 10.0 or slower would be sweet.

 

theres private track rentals at LVD but they are super strict ASWELL!! it sucks, however heres some food for thought.

there's a local that has a DA integra, 500hp on e85 6265, benson sleeved, etc running BOTTOM 11s and he has just a harness bar and they are letting him go.


i wouldn't mind getting a harness and just throw it in when i race at the track and then take it out when i'm done.. what sucks is that a cheap ebay bar for a civic is 100$ and i cant find a cheapie for an evo on ebay

it really pisses me off.

 

Buschur's "new" removable harness bar is really nice but it all depends on if you want to spend $450 on it plus a harness(es)...

 

Wait, Island said this to you?? Damn it, you are ruining it for the rest of us Dan, constantly trapping 140mph...