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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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Buschur's "new" removable harness bar is really nice but it all depends on if you want to spend $450 on it plus a harness(es)...
yea i'd love to get it but thats money i can spend else where. i just found one on ebay for 111+shipping. probably gonna do that and give it a shot, if they let me run i'll keep it, if not i'll just return it.. its whatever lol but most likely they will let me run with it. 10.99 here i come.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsu...#ht_718wt_1165
Old Sep 1, 2011 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 4g63evoeight
yea i'd love to get it but thats money i can spend else where. i just found one on ebay for 111+shipping. probably gonna do that and give it a shot, if they let me run i'll keep it, if not i'll just return it.. its whatever lol but most likely they will let me run with it. 10.99 here i come.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsubishi-Evo-VIII-IX-Harness-Guide-bar-2003-2006-/110736834944?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item19c86e0180 #ht_718wt_1165

For the price that is a nice harness bar, I actually ran the same one in my car for a while. I had it powder coated gloss black. With it being 3 solid pieces like that it definitely helped stiffen the chassis for autoX events, even though that isn't what you are worried about, haha. Only complaint I had is it doesn't come with any bolts/washers for install so you have to use all the OEM stuff which is just barely long enough to use...
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ok perfect, i was going to get longer bolts so then i just bolt the seat belt and the bar aswel since i won't be buying harness belts.. any pics of it dude?

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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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ok perfect, i was going to get longer bolts so then i just bolt the seat belt and the bar aswel since i won't be buying harness belts.. any pics of it dude?
Only pic I could find...







Sorry for throwing the thread a little off topic Boltz...
Old Sep 1, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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still using the factory belts? looks good, will deffinatly work for me at lvd!!


i'd say this is perfectly on topic, but if not we can take it to pm.
Old Sep 1, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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still using the factory belts? looks good, will deffinatly work for me at lvd!!


i'd say this is perfectly on topic, but if not we can take it to pm.

Yes, still using factory belts...Good luck! haha...
Old Sep 1, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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Yes, still using factory belts...Good luck! haha...

perfect, ordering tommorrow!
Old Sep 1, 2011 | 02:19 PM
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I have a solution for you and not drag racing, come to the DSM/EVO Shootout!!

The NHRA rule has been 11.49 for years. IHRA was and I believe still is 11.99.

I agree the rules are nuts. I'll go one further, if a car is equipped with driver side functional air bag it should be even higher. If the car has drivers side front and side functional air bags raise it even more.

Put a provision in for a good harness bar and quality seats like the EVO has too.

Roll bars/cages don't belong in street cars.

The rules are outdated and unfortunately controlled by sponsors of the NHRA/IHRA who put money into the series. Seat belt's that expire in two years, yeah **** that. Helmets that expire in 5 years, **** that too. It all ticks me off to no end.

Also as a side note, a track owner has it at his discretion to how he enforces rules at NON NHRA/IHRA sanctioned events.
Old Sep 1, 2011 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by B.J.@ToxicFab
Buschur's "new" removable harness bar is really nice but it all depends on if you want to spend $450 on it plus a harness(es)...
Thank you! I skimmed through the rest of the thread after posting. As for the Ebay harness bar, well it's certainly cheap enough. Not near the quality of ours, not quickly removed and heavier. Ours costs more because it's worth more, quality costs. Maybe I can just fire all my guys and job out all our products to some Chinese kid



Also something else to prove the argument about cars changing and the rules should. Check out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joMK1WZjP7g
Old Sep 1, 2011 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by David Buschur
I have a solution for you and not drag racing, come to the DSM/EVO Shootout!!

The NHRA rule has been 11.49 for years. IHRA was and I believe still is 11.99.

I agree the rules are nuts. I'll go one further, if a car is equipped with driver side functional air bag it should be even higher. If the car has drivers side front and side functional air bags raise it even more.

Put a provision in for a good harness bar and quality seats like the EVO has too.

Roll bars/cages don't belong in street cars.

The rules are outdated and unfortunately controlled by sponsors of the NHRA/IHRA who put money into the series. Seat belt's that expire in two years, yeah **** that. Helmets that expire in 5 years, **** that too. It all ticks me off to no end.

Also as a side note, a track owner has it at his discretion to how he enforces rules at NON NHRA/IHRA sanctioned events.
i was at the shootout, pissed off at myself for not bringing the car and running it in stock ESA class next year i'm running!

Originally Posted by David Buschur
Thank you! I skimmed through the rest of the thread after posting. As for the Ebay harness bar, well it's certainly cheap enough. Not near the quality of ours, not quickly removed and heavier. Ours costs more because it's worth more, quality costs. Maybe I can just fire all my guys and job out all our products to some Chinese kid



Also something else to prove the argument about cars changing and the rules should. Check out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joMK1WZjP7g
oh i know, its probably a POS compared to yours, only reason i bought it is so i don't get harrased for running low 11s, i just drag race the car from time to time, i don't autocross or roadrace so the Ebay piece will go in when i go to the track and come right out when i leave the track.
Old Sep 1, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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It is a big price different but there is a big difference in the bars. Even the Sparco bar is WAY off in quality from ours. Ours is masterfully TIG welded, powder coated in a choice of colors, uses aircraft quick release pins, all chrome moly, the slip joint at the end is hollowed out to keep the weight down. There was a lot of thought and detail that went into it. Sorry for getting this off topic. Just explaining the difference in a $111 imported Chinese bar and a quality Made in the USA piece. I also notice the tubing that runs down to the floor in the Chinese bar looks awfully small...not a lot of support there. It may just be the picture.

Anyway, I think for any harness bar to help you get by at the drag strip a few other things are important too. Put a set of harnesses in there, it really adds to the detail and makes it seem more like a cage. Also, some nice darker window tint in the rear helps a ton!
Old Sep 3, 2011 | 12:20 PM
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pete, heres an idea... put a 6 point in it. all you do is race the car anyway, and i doubt you will ever get rid of it. a 6 point and a jacket and LVD will never harass you until you are running 9.99 or quicker.
Old Sep 3, 2011 | 12:26 PM
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9.99 or trap more than 135mph... then you need the 8pt.

I already trap 130 prior to making more power & reducing weight. I'll hit 135mph next time out and I'll be held to an exceptionally high standard for safety equipment. A 6 point cage is one thing... a halo and 8 pt cage through your dash is a whole different one.
Old Sep 3, 2011 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by David Buschur
I have a solution for you and not drag racing, come to the DSM/EVO Shootout!!
Haha, very true...Just sucks for everyone that gets sh*t for running faster then 11.5s with no cage to be able to only enjoy their car maybe once a year at your event...

Originally Posted by David Buschur
Thank you! I skimmed through the rest of the thread after posting. As for the Ebay harness bar, well it's certainly cheap enough. Not near the quality of ours, not quickly removed and heavier. Ours costs more because it's worth more, quality costs. Maybe I can just fire all my guys and job out all our products to some Chinese kid
Mr. Buschur, I used to post under the screen name 06MREvo & was posting a lot in your thread when you first released you were making these. I actually sold my "chinese" bar because I want to pick up your removable bar over the winter once I get my 5 spd & non acd t-case swap stuff done. I would imagine the material for your removable bar cost more then the "chinese" bar alone, haha. Unfortunately I never got to weigh the bar before I sold/shipped it but I'm sure the "chinese" bar is double the weight or more of yous. If you don't run back seats or care about removing the bar then you really can't beat the price of the ebay/"chinese" piece. The bar came primer & I had it powder coated gloss black and it came out really well...Definitely stiffened up the chassis for autoX events. I really like how yours is removable & enjoy how harness bars stiffen up the chassis and that is why I plan on picking one of yours up sometime in the future.
Old Sep 4, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by R/TErnie
9.99 or trap more than 135mph... then you need the 8pt.

I already trap 130 prior to making more power & reducing weight. I'll hit 135mph next time out and I'll be held to an exceptionally high standard for safety equipment. A 6 point cage is one thing... a halo and 8 pt cage through your dash is a whole different one.
yes, well aware of the NHRA rules, but thanks for the reassurance.

hes only looking to run 10s stock turbo, but gets 2 passes and goes home.
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