Case Study # 123 - Most Powerful Evo IX (so far) - 375 whp ! exhuast, intake & MBC!!
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
it is a combo of both
Also - notice the variation in the shape opf the TQ curve from 3600 through 5100 rpms
The IX stays much flater and broader through the 4500 - 5100 range while the 8 seems to fall flatly all the way down
Its the MIVEC working which is keeping the TQ greater in the mid range
More boost generally equals more TQ so the 3500 TQ figure is much closer between the two cars
However - if you look at the TQ at 7,000 rpms you will not a serious advantage for the IX over the 8 - and the MIVEC is set to zero advance after 6,000
This shows the turbo makes most of the power while the MIVEC helps alter the TQ profile
Also - notice the variation in the shape opf the TQ curve from 3600 through 5100 rpms
The IX stays much flater and broader through the 4500 - 5100 range while the 8 seems to fall flatly all the way down
Its the MIVEC working which is keeping the TQ greater in the mid range
More boost generally equals more TQ so the 3500 TQ figure is much closer between the two cars
However - if you look at the TQ at 7,000 rpms you will not a serious advantage for the IX over the 8 - and the MIVEC is set to zero advance after 6,000
This shows the turbo makes most of the power while the MIVEC helps alter the TQ profile
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Originally Posted by kipper215
I don't doubt the 9 is capable of making power but, 375 on the stock turbo and stock IC sounds like a pipe dream. A crack pipe dream.
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Thanks for the info. So of course all of this now begs the question, when will somebody test an IX turbo on an VIII?
Also, can someone tell me how the COMPRESSOR HOUSING is making such a big difference? Is the one on the EVO8s really that restrictive?
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Al, after reading tis I just went out tonight and bought an 06 Blue IX , please let me know if you will be coming in to Chicago for a Tune, I will be getting a TBE this weekend .
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Originally Posted by jamevo8
Al, after reading tis I just went out tonight and bought an 06 Blue IX , please let me know if you will be coming in to Chicago for a Tune, I will be getting a TBE this weekend .
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Originally Posted by jamevo8
Al, after reading tis I just went out tonight and bought an 06 Blue IX , please let me know if you will be coming in to Chicago for a Tune, I will be getting a TBE this weekend .
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Thanks for the info. So of course all of this now begs the question, when will somebody test an IX turbo on an VIII?
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Could you give everyone a printout with SAE correction? Just speculating here, but I'd say this was done in very cold weather and you guys printed it out in "actual numbers" with no weather correction factor so that it reads higher.
Correction factors were made for a reason, and a level testing ground would be one of them. Am I the only one who noticed this? I'm not trying to discredit anybody, I would just like to see the air temp, baro, humidity on the run, and what the correction % would have been if printed out in SAE or even STD just to give an idea of what the car would have made if say it were on our Dynojet.
Correction factors were made for a reason, and a level testing ground would be one of them. Am I the only one who noticed this? I'm not trying to discredit anybody, I would just like to see the air temp, baro, humidity on the run, and what the correction % would have been if printed out in SAE or even STD just to give an idea of what the car would have made if say it were on our Dynojet.
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Originally Posted by jamevo8
Al, after reading tis I just went out tonight and bought an 06 Blue IX , please let me know if you will be coming in to Chicago for a Tune, I will be getting a TBE this weekend .
Let me know when you are ready - congrats and enjoy the new car !
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Thanks Al, I will be ready after Christmas, that will alow e time to let Santa ( MY Girlfriend) what I want) What besides exhaust might I want to get that is readily available, By the way which exhaust do you like best?
Do I need to find 5 or more people for a Chicago Tune?
Thanks, Jeff Malec
Do I need to find 5 or more people for a Chicago Tune?
Thanks, Jeff Malec
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Originally Posted by gsnt
Could you give everyone a printout with SAE correction? Just speculating here, but I'd say this was done in very cold weather and you guys printed it out in "actual numbers" with no weather correction factor so that it reads higher.
Correction factors were made for a reason, and a level testing ground would be one of them. Am I the only one who noticed this? I'm not trying to discredit anybody, I would just like to see the air temp, baro, humidity on the run, and what the correction % would have been if printed out in SAE or even STD just to give an idea of what the car would have made if say it were on our Dynojet.
Correction factors were made for a reason, and a level testing ground would be one of them. Am I the only one who noticed this? I'm not trying to discredit anybody, I would just like to see the air temp, baro, humidity on the run, and what the correction % would have been if printed out in SAE or even STD just to give an idea of what the car would have made if say it were on our Dynojet.
If its 90degrees out and your on the dyno... and its hot enough where its creating knock and your timing it being pulled... how is the dyno going to compensate for the really hot air which is causing knock... is it just going to up the numbers? I dont get it.
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al, aside from redoing all your tuning software for the 9, do you see any downfalls yet with the 9.. be it the mivec, or newer ecu software.. the 9's sound great, but there has to some downfall.. i know i always look at the downside of things..
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Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
I caught it. But nonetheless, how much can the SAE correction thing help. Here is what I dont understand.
If its 90degrees out and your on the dyno... and its hot enough where its creating knock and your timing it being pulled... how is the dyno going to compensate for the really hot air which is causing knock... is it just going to up the numbers? I dont get it.
If its 90degrees out and your on the dyno... and its hot enough where its creating knock and your timing it being pulled... how is the dyno going to compensate for the really hot air which is causing knock... is it just going to up the numbers? I dont get it.
If you pay attention over a period of time, most people who do this will post sheets in STD. during the summer, but will post uncorrected numbers all winter long. This car makes great power regardless, so I dont want the owner or Al as a tuner to think that I'm knocking it. Its pretty amazing compared to '03's with the same mods!