Case Study # 123 - Most Powerful Evo IX (so far) - 375 whp ! exhuast, intake & MBC!!
Dec 7, 2005, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kipper215
I have to way the BS flag on that one. that high amount of boosting with stock injectors and no fuel cut.
Dec 7, 2005, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kipper215
I have to way the BS flag on that one. that high amount of boosting with stock injectors and no fuel cut. i wonder what the duty cycle is. also dyno numbers are subjective. I will believe it when i see a 9 beat me on the street.
My reflash eliminated the fuel cut
The injectors were at 100% duty cycle with the pump installed - but the tune was on the rich side for saftey till he looses the stock cat and frees up some back pressure
By way of comparisions a Evo 8 on the same dyno would make about 320 max on the same 100 octane
A full Buschur Stage IV on 100 octane would have a hard time to make the same power - in fact it would be in most cases about 20 whp down
I knew the Evo IX was going to make insane power levels when I was in AZ on this past Sat and dynoed over 300 TQ and WHP with a similarly modded IX on a Mustang dyno with 91 octane - that is equal to about 325 - 330 on this Dyno Jet which is again about 25 - 30 whp more than a Evo VIII would make on similar mods
Dec 7, 2005, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by atlvalet
THe numbers may be in the same ballpark, but lowdown torque should be higher on the IX due to the MIVEC. I also know the head on the IX is different than the 8 (not sure how much, though).
Dec 7, 2005, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Vroompsh
I don't see how that's possible unless the car's mivec was tuned very agressively, and even then...375WHP without a turboback? Sorry...that dyno is O F F
For reference from last week here was the friend of the owner of this Evo IX who had PUMP gas and a HKS Intake and MBC - stock exhuast
When I tunred his boost up to 23.5 peak this is what he made
The thread on that other car is here
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ght=case+study
My fellow ecutek partner Sean I. on these forums also made 330 whp on his customer's car a couple of days ago with similar mods and pump gas
All of which support the theory that the new turbo and cam combo on the IX will generally be making about 25 - 30 whp more than the Evo VIII with similar mods
It seems from my investigations on the dyno that when you are starting to RAISE up the boost beyond stock levels is where the new IX turbo really starts to make significant improvments over the stock Evo IX turbo
To put in in perspective - the new IX turbo is superior to the White rabbit or the 20 G and tME units which I have previously tested
Dec 7, 2005, 05:06 PM
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Al's doing it again!!!!!!!!! great #'s.
just for comparo Al is right that the 9 makes more stock power. the car he mentioned in AZ making 300 on the Mustang Dyno would make about 330 on a Dynojet or 310-320 on a Dyno Dynamics. so if this car made 377 on dynojet, it awould make 340 on a mustang & about 350 on a DD. nonetheless, it is very, very impressive.
for those who have 8's & want 9 power, all you have to do is get an intake cam w/ an adjustable cam gear...
just for comparo Al is right that the 9 makes more stock power. the car he mentioned in AZ making 300 on the Mustang Dyno would make about 330 on a Dynojet or 310-320 on a Dyno Dynamics. so if this car made 377 on dynojet, it awould make 340 on a mustang & about 350 on a DD. nonetheless, it is very, very impressive.
for those who have 8's & want 9 power, all you have to do is get an intake cam w/ an adjustable cam gear...
Dec 7, 2005, 05:07 PM
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awesome numbers.. And there is still no place to buy the US IX turbo is there? If there was and it was in the same price range as a tme or white rabbit, i'm sure alot of people would opt for it.. I understand the IX also spools alot quicker than the VIII because of the MIVEC. Will the 9 turbo be alot laggier on an 8 than the stock turbo, and alot laggier than on the 9 itself? just curious.
Dec 7, 2005, 05:09 PM
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OH - and I almost forgot - the test drive
Man what a machine
PERFECT is how I would describe this car
The MIVEC really has a "feel" that I can not desicribe in the mid range - it really creates a change to the power band in the mid range
If I did not already have a sponsorship on my race evo viii for next season I would prob be selling off my parts and trading up for a IX
There are many other small improvements on the IX - such as the fuel pump - etc. which I am seeing.
This customer is going to add a 272 exhuast cam and a full 3" exhuast next week to see if 400 whp is possible
Man what a machine
PERFECT is how I would describe this car
The MIVEC really has a "feel" that I can not desicribe in the mid range - it really creates a change to the power band in the mid range
If I did not already have a sponsorship on my race evo viii for next season I would prob be selling off my parts and trading up for a IX
There are many other small improvements on the IX - such as the fuel pump - etc. which I am seeing.
This customer is going to add a 272 exhuast cam and a full 3" exhuast next week to see if 400 whp is possible
Dec 7, 2005, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoTio
Al, could you answer this guys question?
Dec 7, 2005, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
To put in in perspective - the new IX turbo is superior to the White rabbit or the 20 G and tME units which I have previously tested
Dec 7, 2005, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RSGuy
Al, do you think an EVO 8 w/comparable mods and the IX turbo would put down similar #'s?
Please say yes....
Please say yes....
The lag will be slightly greater without the MIVEC - how much is anyone's guess - prob at least 200 - 300 rpms or so
I think this turbo is going to be a really good thing on any evo
The Buschur IX 20G also looks very promising
I would much rather have the stock Evo IX turbo than any Gt30 based unit such as the Gt3037 or 3076 etc
I think
has really taken a huge step forward in turbo design
Dec 7, 2005, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TwStDeVo
So the new evo9-20g should be the turbo to get? its nice to see these results from the evo9, which is why i have been watching the new evo9-20g thread very closely and cant wait until the first group of people get theirs and put them to the test.
I am very anxious to test one - particularly as the price is lower the stock IX turbo and the power will be greater which is a great formula for me !
