Dynoflash trip to Las Vegas
May 3, 2006, 03:41 PM
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So how does this look?
1. Kris (M3this)Custom Dyno Tune Friday Night
2. Ryan (702RSevo) Custom Dyno Tune 1st Sat Morning
3. Casey (lil evil evo)Custom Dyno Tune 2nd Sat Morning
4. Jesse (evolsk8r) Custom Dyno Tune 3rd Sat
5. Chris (siccmadeEvo) 4? Sat
and the rest of the day is up to Al
I will be doing a boost leak test tonight, and have the money now for dyno time.
1. Kris (M3this)Custom Dyno Tune Friday Night
2. Ryan (702RSevo) Custom Dyno Tune 1st Sat Morning
3. Casey (lil evil evo)Custom Dyno Tune 2nd Sat Morning
4. Jesse (evolsk8r) Custom Dyno Tune 3rd Sat
5. Chris (siccmadeEvo) 4? Sat
and the rest of the day is up to Al
I will be doing a boost leak test tonight, and have the money now for dyno time.
May 3, 2006, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 702RSevo
hell ya man i was on Empty when he said that so on the way home i filled up with shell and you can smell the difference its pretty crazy..
May 3, 2006, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by evolsk8r
So how does this look?
1. Kris (M3this)Custom Dyno Tune Friday Night
2. Ryan (702RSevo) Custom Dyno Tune 1st Sat Morning
3. Casey (lil evil evo)Custom Dyno Tune 2nd Sat Morning
4. Jesse (evolsk8r) Custom Dyno Tune 3rd Sat
5. Chris (siccmadeEvo) 4? Sat
and the rest of the day is up to Al
1. Kris (M3this)Custom Dyno Tune Friday Night
2. Ryan (702RSevo) Custom Dyno Tune 1st Sat Morning
3. Casey (lil evil evo)Custom Dyno Tune 2nd Sat Morning
4. Jesse (evolsk8r) Custom Dyno Tune 3rd Sat
5. Chris (siccmadeEvo) 4? Sat
and the rest of the day is up to Al
well look at that Doug looks like u'll be open sat! and im sure all the guys that are getting their base flashes are going to want to see the gains!
May 3, 2006, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Early EVO
the import racers, ricers and wanna be's.
I wonder which one I am ?
Funniest part was when they did test drive his car on the street. Since it is road raced pretty hard they wanted to double check for knock. The flasher was driving and he said once he got up to 95 in 4th gear he looked over and realized, hey, this guy IS a cop.
I wonder which one I am ?
Funniest part was when they did test drive his car on the street. Since it is road raced pretty hard they wanted to double check for knock. The flasher was driving and he said once he got up to 95 in 4th gear he looked over and realized, hey, this guy IS a cop.
What is the point then ?
If we all know a proper tune must be tested on the road to look for knock anyway how does one properly tune a car while staying off the road
Your message seems conflicted - be safe and tune on a dyno but then go out and test for knock at 95 mph ?
I had one customer we tuned him on the dyno then we did final testing on a road course rental at $1,500 a day to fine tune it
The main trust on 91 octane especially is that with reflash tuning 90% of the effort is at locating the knock threshold and tuning around detonation. This is where knowing the loading on a particuylar dyno vs the road is key in getting an accuarte measurement of when the car will knock. Throw in how air flow effects the car and tempurature variations in a hot climate and you realize just how futile tuning on a dyno is.
On 91 octane the main issue for myself is at what timing and a/f the car starts to knock and knowing how much of a margin of error is needed to make the car reliable and safe as a daily driver given variations in one tank of gas to another and climatic changes.
Dyno numbers are great but mean very little without all the other details to assist you in knowing what they mean.
What good is making say 375 whp only to leave the dyno and see that your ecu is pulling ignition timing due to knock as soon as you get on it on the highway?
Would you rather have 350 whp and not have any trace of knock or ecu pulling timing ?
What is the goal in dyno tuning ? Is everyone trying to set the car to make the most possible WHP ? It almost seems as though many of the customers want to get dyno tuned for this very reason.
The bottom line as any good tuner will tell you is that both the dyno and road can be used to do a great tune with the right equipment and experience.
The fastest cars at tracks I have tuned never have seen dynos - including Most Wanted in FL who went 11.63 on Buschur Stage II and my reflash and my own 9.98 GT35 Evo 8 which is the fastest GT35 R Evo ever to date.
I personally prefer the road over a stange dyno, although in my home town I work on a dyno jet dyno every day (yet test each car on the highway after every tune). Since I am very familar with my own home dyno I can guarantee a great result when usuing it
Using strange dynos becomes more of a challenge
The last weekend in AZ the mustang dyno there was not even loading cars close enough to realize full boost on the dyno - totally useless for accurate tuning
One car could only make 10 psi on the dyno yet was making 20 psi on the road with no adjustments just going off the dyno and onto the road
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May 3, 2006, 03:55 PM
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Ok it seems that ALL customers wish to get dyno tuned
I woulde propose appointments 2 hours apart on Saturday
Friday
8:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.
Saturday
10:00 a.m. - 12
12 - 2:00 p.m.
2:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.
4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.
Those with a deposit in please pick your time slot - first come first served as usual
I woulde propose appointments 2 hours apart on Saturday
Friday
8:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.
Saturday
10:00 a.m. - 12
12 - 2:00 p.m.
2:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.
4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.
Those with a deposit in please pick your time slot - first come first served as usual
May 3, 2006, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Ok it seems that ALL customers wish to get dyno tuned
I woulde propose appointments 2 hours apart on Saturday
Those with a deposit in please pick your time slot - first come first served as usual
I woulde propose appointments 2 hours apart on Saturday
Those with a deposit in please pick your time slot - first come first served as usual
8:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.-
Saturday
10:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.- Me! 702rsevo(Ryan)
12 - 2:00 p.m.-
2:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.-
4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.-
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May 3, 2006, 04:12 PM
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Friday
8:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.- Kris (M3This)
Saturday
10:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.- Me! 702rsevo(Ryan)
12 - 2:00 p.m.-
2:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.-
4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.-
8:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.- Kris (M3This)
Saturday
10:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.- Me! 702rsevo(Ryan)
12 - 2:00 p.m.-
2:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.-
4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.-
May 3, 2006, 04:32 PM
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Friday
8:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.- Kris (M3This)
Saturday
10:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.- Me! 702rsevo(Ryan)
12 - 2:00 p.m.- Casey (lil evil evo)
2:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.- Jesse (evolsk8r)
4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.- Chris (siccmadeEvo)
8:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.- Kris (M3This)
Saturday
10:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.- Me! 702rsevo(Ryan)
12 - 2:00 p.m.- Casey (lil evil evo)
2:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.- Jesse (evolsk8r)
4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.- Chris (siccmadeEvo)
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May 3, 2006, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by evolsk8r
Friday
8:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.- Kris (M3This)
Saturday
10:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.- Me! 702rsevo(Ryan)
12 - 2:00 p.m.- Casey (lil evil evo)
2:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.- Jesse (evolsk8r)
4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.-
8:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.- Kris (M3This)
Saturday
10:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.- Me! 702rsevo(Ryan)
12 - 2:00 p.m.- Casey (lil evil evo)
2:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.- Jesse (evolsk8r)
4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.-
BTW - what have you changed on the car since I last tuned it ?
May 3, 2006, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Early EVO
Was going to post this in the Vegas section. Saturday I had a police officer with an STI on the dyno. Hell of a nice guy. Wish there were more like him. He trains the officers how to drive up at the speedway course. And got this STI new for road course and lapping sessions. Has an FP green, FMIC, exhaust, fuel system and U-tec. Made decent power for 91 gas. We had an interesting discussion about imports. The police out here. This guy is in his early 50's too. All of the police departments out here are making a concerted effort to crack down on the import racers, ricers and wanna be's. Although he admits most of the wrecks are attributed to cell phones and people overdriving their SUV's to unsafe speeds, and trying to manuever. The wake left behind by a car speeding through traffic at 100 mph really confuses the average driver. Thats when deadly mistakes take place.
Least he gave me his card and cell phone number if I ever need any help. Be safe out there guys. Insurance rates are already high enough on these cars.
Least he gave me his card and cell phone number if I ever need any help. Be safe out there guys. Insurance rates are already high enough on these cars.
Also, California is at least a hundred times worse then here. A cop there will just look at your car and tow it at will. Nevada is way more laid back no matter what you heard.
And, Saturday morning on the 95 is not bad at all. You might be thinking of the 15 with everyone coming in from California. I'm pretty sure you knew that Al was gonna do road tunes so I don't know why you're giving **** now?
May 3, 2006, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by evolsk8r
BTW - what have you changed on the car since I last tuned it ?
Make sure you have the car boost leak tested with 25 psi
What is the altitude in LV ?
May 3, 2006, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I got the Nisei intercooler.
What is the altitude in LV ?[/QUOTE]roughly 2100-2200 depending on where you are.
May 3, 2006, 06:13 PM
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I will be sure to test it @25psi. I'm getting ready to leave my house and do the leak test. Altitude in Vegas is supposed to be around 2200-2300ft. The altitude definitely affected my car after getting tuned in Phoenix. My idle went to crap as soon as I got into town, so that's another reason why I want to get tuned again.